2018/19 Marco Silva

davids

Player Valuation: £50m
Of course they have, it's just not on your radar because you don't support them. Huddersfield have only won 3 games all season and 2 of them were against Wolves. Wolves have also lost to Cardiff and only drew with Fulham. Without even looking at any other games I'm pretty sure they reckon they should be 11 points better off just from those fixtures.
Wolves first season in the Prem so their fans will forgive the odd slip, beating Man U to make the semi finals will I'm sure will make up for those. Brighton beating Millwall didn't improve my weekend though. If your content with mid table mediocrity I'm sure Silva won't let you down if he stays.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
Wolves first season in the Prem so their fans will forgive the odd slip, beating Man U to make the semi finals will I'm sure will make up for those. Brighton beating Millwall didn't improve my weekend though. If your content with mid table mediocrity I'm sure Silva won't let you down if he stays.
I think you've forgotten the point you're trying to make so we'll leave it there.
 

davids

Player Valuation: £50m
I think you've forgotten the point you're trying to make so we'll leave it there.
My point was that the effort shown Saturday second half and against the rs would have put us in a far better position. Silva can't get the team consistently playing to that level. If your happy with a Derby performance followed by a Newcastle....West Ham will be interesting.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
My point was that the effort shown Saturday second half and against the rs would have put us in a far better position. Silva can't get the team consistently playing to that level. If your happy with a Derby performance followed by a Newcastle....West Ham will be interesting.
No, your point was that if we'd won all the games you think we should have won then we'd be challenging for 3rd (you said 5th/6th but the way the table is means that to be looking at 6th effectively means to be looking at 3rd by default). Loads of people unsurprisingly laughed at you and I tried to point out that every team would say the same thing. Now you've gone off on a tangent and keep talking about me being happy with where we are when I've never suggested that I am.
 

windymiller

Player Valuation: £20m
Sorry a chara are you comparing our squad to one with Ozil, Lacazette, Toerrira, Auba, Suarez, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, Bellerin, Kosciely, Cech, Iwobi. If we signed one of those players it would be one of our greatest transfers ever and this place would melt down.

I disagree on Emery as well, i think he varies his system a lot from game to game, he very rarely sticks to the same team or system.
Whilst I agree that Arsenal have a better squad, suggesting that signing Iwobi would be one of our greatest ever transfers is insane (not to mention a geriatric Cech). If we signed Iwobi there would be a thread of haters after three games that would make the Gylfi thread look like a love in.
 

Neiler

Player Valuation: £70m
Whilst I agree that Arsenal have a better squad, suggesting that signing Iwobi would be one of our greatest ever transfers is insane (not to mention a geriatric Cech). If we signed Iwobi there would be a thread of haters after three games that would make the Gylfi thread look like a love in.
Think Iwobi is underrated myself! Cech is past it of course but what a player he was.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/17/everton-chelsea-premier-league

That article perfectly sums up the game yesterday, the situation with Silva for me and accurately assesses some of our players who a large number of fans consistently overhype.

"Ending that barren run against the top six is not insignificant – not least because, if Everton are to break into that upper tier, it would be a major advantage if they could take points off them – but equally there seem few reasons for confidence that next season will be better than this.
That is not to say Silva should be sacked but it is to say that the best argument for keeping him at the moment may be that Everton have sacked so many managers in the recent past that there is a need and a desire that at some point the cycle of bloodletting and the state of permanent transition should end."
I think the article is good in general, but with regard to Silva, you could make that sort of argument about maybe 90% of managers in the league. Very few managers are really exceeding their targets I think. Guardiola, Espirito Santo and Gracia are. Klopp and Pochettino if they can actually win a trophy. Other than that pretty much every manager is just in the job because they're doing alright, and somebody else might do worse. Unfortunately that's unlikely to change any time soon with the way the PL is skewed to favour the clubs at the top.

To me the argument to keep Silva is very simply that he hasn't done anything to justify his sacking. If you just start sacking managers for not doing better than you hoped then things will get out of hand very quickly. I would say that broadly speaking this season has been very similar to what most people expected (or at least what they claimed they expected). Most predictions in the papers etc had us down to finish 8th or 9th and we're 2/3 points off that as it stands, that's just not a sackable offence in my book. I know a lot of Arsenal fans and their realistic hopes were to be 3rd or 4th this year and to win a trophy. If they don't win the Europa League and end up 5th or 6th though, they don't expect Emery to be sacked, because it would be weird.
 

ForeverBlue92

Player Valuation: £8m
Question for the pro silva fans.

If West Ham beat us on saturday will you be concerned based on this season overall and will it take the gloss away from the chelsea game like the newcastle game did?
 

bring the ghost on

Player Valuation: £30m
I think the article is good in general, but with regard to Silva, you could make that sort of argument about maybe 90% of managers in the league. Very few managers are really exceeding their targets I think. Guardiola, Espirito Santo and Gracia are. Klopp and Pochettino if they can actually win a trophy.
A lot of the targets set are unrealistic. Leicester, Everton, West Ham and probably from next season Wolves will all want to try to break that top 6, but the gulf in class is massive and the odds on any of them doing it are slim.

The top 6 all want a stab at the league, but it’s crowded at the top and even finishing top 4 is a tough ask (other than for City and Liverpool).
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
A lot of the targets set are unrealistic. Leicester, Everton, West Ham and probably from next season Wolves will all want to try to break that top 6, but the gulf in class is massive and the odds on any of them doing it are slim.

The top 6 all want a stab at the league, but it’s crowded at the top and even finishing top 4 is a tough ask (other than for City and Liverpool).
Yeah exactly. I don’t think you can sack a manager for finishing a couple of points off where you thought they would in one season. Obviously if we’re not moving forward next year it’s different, but at the moment I don’t see how changing manager could even be on the radar.

I think some people are struggling to get their heads round the fact that the days of us being part of that top group have gone. We need to get back up there but we’re really not underachieving to any real extent. Yes we could be a few points and therefore places better off but the very best this group is capable of is a distant 7th, just ahead of one or two others in our current peer group.
 

chippy1722

Player Valuation: £15m
Unless the form takes another massive dip in the remaining fixtures, I'd imagine that he's secured his position going into next season now.

I can't say I'll be feeling too optimistic if that's the case. I was certain that we were only a year or two away from a full-blown relegation battle at half-time yesterday.
Still shouldn’t be here next season for me unless he has an unbelievable run and we can see some hope, the frustration this season has been against the mid to lower teams, we’ve played decent against some of the top teams we just can’t seem to keep the effort up against the the lesser teams.
 

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