2018/19 Marco Silva

ForeverBlue92

Player Valuation: £8m
You accept nothing tho.

You want everything your way and you want it now.

Patience is required, thats all, demand more, sure I demand more, but you demand it every single post you make, every post you have made on this forum with all 5 of your accounts have all basically said the same thing over and over again. Surely you can see how tiresome that is to read, over and over again, day after day, week after week.

We get it, Silva is rubbish, not even gonna argue that point, but you still didnt answer my question, why do you think we have a God given right to finish above Wolves? They have a good manager, owners who have used their contacts to get themselves very good players. We on the other hand are a total mess, so they are where they are cos the deserve it, we are where we are cos we deserve it, based on how we have performed in the current season.
I agree 100% we deserve it - if we went down next year we would deserve it because the fans have sat back and let the mismanagement happen.

Imagine the RS fans if they had the same two seasons as we've just had. Absolutely no way would they sit around and accept it.

Wolves fans boo'ed off their players at HT because Spurs were beating them - sounds deluded from a newly promoted side who **should** be happy with just staying up but their fans want and demand more than that.

Our fanbase is not united - its just pro Silva vs anti silva, pro board vs anti board and the sad thing is we all suffer in the end.
 
I agree 100% we deserve it - if we went down next year we would deserve it because the fans have sat back and let the mismanagement happen.

Imagine the RS fans if they had the same two seasons as we've just had. Absolutely no way would they sit around and accept it.

Wolves fans boo'ed off their players at HT because Spurs were beating them - sounds deluded from a newly promoted side who **should** be happy with just staying up but their fans want and demand more than that.

Our fanbase is not united - its just pro Silva vs anti silva, pro board vs anti board and the sad thing is we all suffer in the end.
But be honest, you never ever gave Silva a chance did you? You probably wanted him sacked from game 1, cos thats the kind of person you are, you seek out the negatives in everything.

Im not even pro-Silva, I just said I would give him a full season before writing him off, I didnt want him in the first place, but sadly the next fella we get in will be of the same ilk.

You think that if the fans demand a top, top manager they would come. We tried that before Koeman, we had Jose threads, Emery threads, all with the majority thinking we had a chance, but be honest, we really dont, not yet. And no amount of shouting is gonna make Jose want to come here.
 

ForeverBlue92

Player Valuation: £8m
But be honest, you never ever gave Silva a chance did you? You probably wanted him sacked from game 1, cos thats the kind of person you are, you seek out the negatives in everything.

Im not even pro-Silva, I just said I would give him a full season before writing him off, I didnt want him in the first place, but sadly the next fella we get in will be of the same ilk.

You think that if the fans demand a top, top manager they would come. We tried that before Koeman, we had Jose threads, Emery threads, all with the majority thinking we had a chance, but be honest, we really dont, not yet. And no amount of shouting is gonna make Jose want to come here.
I didnt want him however I was willing to give him a chance (not that any of us had any choice regardless) however its clear to see he's way out of his depth.

For me its not about getting a elite manager as like you say its highly unlikely we can attract one - however surely we should be trying to attract from that tier below?

Why not go for a Mancini or a Benitez? Or someone like a Garcia or Hassenhuttl doing a decent job abroad?

The manner of Silva's recruitment ie. No shortlist or interview process just gung ho for a bloke completely unproven was incredibly stupid and small time and its my big issue with Moshiri - he wouldn't do this in the business world so why do this in a multi million pound industry?
 

TheBlueGibbon

Player Valuation: £60m
I didnt want him however I was willing to give him a chance (not that any of us had any choice regardless) however its clear to see he's way out of his depth.

For me its not about getting a elite manager as like you say its highly unlikely we can attract one - however surely we should be trying to attract from that tier below?

Why not go for a Mancini or a Benitez? Or someone like a Garcia or Hassenhuttl doing a decent job abroad?

The manner of Silva's recruitment ie. No shortlist or interview process just gung ho for a bloke completely unproven was incredibly stupid and small time and its my big issue with Moshiri - he wouldn't do this in the business world so why do this in a multi million pound industry?
Gracia didn't do a particularly good job abroad, he left Kazan after finishing 9th in the Russian league. Silva, Gravia and Hassenhuttl ultimately have very similar win percentages across their careers.
Gracia: 40.9%
Silva:50.5% (41% if you exclude Sporting Lisbon and Olympiakos)
Hasenhuttl: 42.02%
 

bicycleheader

Te parto la puta cara!
Gracia didn't do a particularly good job abroad, he left Kazan after finishing 9th in the Russian league. Silva, Gravia and Hassenhuttl ultimately have very similar win percentages across their careers.
Gracia: 40.9%
Silva:50.5% (41% if you exclude Sporting Lisbon and Olympiakos)
Hasenhuttl: 42.02%
Basically they are in the same bucket as Silva but probably better reps and track record......but still all gambles who would need patience and time and may not hit the ground running.

Mancini....likes to spend money wherever he goes. It's a dumb shout right now for the situation we are in. We are not going to spend the money he would want.

As for the ex-RS currently below us in the table.....Christ almighty. Complaining about ambition and suggesting him as an option....
 

BigBlueNose

Player Valuation: £70m
I agree 100% we deserve it - if we went down next year we would deserve it because the fans have sat back and let the mismanagement happen.

Imagine the RS fans if they had the same two seasons as we've just had. Absolutely no way would they sit around and accept it.

Wolves fans boo'ed off their players at HT because Spurs were beating them - sounds deluded from a newly promoted side who **should** be happy with just staying up but their fans want and demand more than that.

Our fanbase is not united - its just pro Silva vs anti silva, pro board vs anti board and the sad thing is we all suffer in the end.
Dalglish.. Yes their king, won there last pot and then got binned off...

Then they binned hodgson right off when they realised he was limited..

But 15th will be sound for us cos we play better than what allardyce does.

Pathetic
 

ToffeeTim

Player Valuation: £70m
I agree 100% we deserve it - if we went down next year we would deserve it because the fans have sat back and let the mismanagement happen.

Imagine the RS fans if they had the same two seasons as we've just had. Absolutely no way would they sit around and accept it.

Wolves fans boo'ed off their players at HT because Spurs were beating them - sounds deluded from a newly promoted side who **should** be happy with just staying up but their fans want and demand more than that.

Our fanbase is not united - its just pro Silva vs anti silva, pro board vs anti board and the sad thing is we all suffer in the end.
You need to just accept where we are. Lots of our supporters gave up years ago. This is going to take a whole long time to improve. If the manager is going to go then it will be in the summer. So calling for a sacking every single day until then is mind numbingly boring.
 

Eggsyblueskin

Player Valuation: £25m
I didnt want him however I was willing to give him a chance (not that any of us had any choice regardless) however its clear to see he's way out of his depth.

For me its not about getting a elite manager as like you say its highly unlikely we can attract one - however surely we should be trying to attract from that tier below?

Why not go for a Mancini or a Benitez? Or someone like a Garcia or Hassenhuttl doing a decent job abroad?

The manner of Silva's recruitment ie. No shortlist or interview process just gung ho for a bloke completely unproven was incredibly stupid and small time and its my big issue with Moshiri - he wouldn't do this in the business world so why do this in a multi million pound industry?
In order to strengthen your point you continually distort Silva’s standing in the game. When Moshiri appointed him he was highly regarded as a young manager with great potential, not the second rate no-mark you portray him as.
Even if he was dismissed we would certainly appoint a manager of similar standing and style in order to provide some form of continuity in player recruitment and training which is the aim of installing Brands as DoF.
Personally I accept it takes time to build a football team , certainly longer than a season. I say this while reflecting on the fact that I was one of those calling for Kendall’s sacking amid regular cushion storms.
I’m sorry if my position makes me culpable in your eyes for our current malaise.
However I will be there on Sunday as usual ,cheering our team on.
 

Lelouch

Player Valuation: £15m
Some fans expectations and demands are just way too high for this club atm, While I'm in the Silva out camp because I don't see him progressing the team forward you have to understand the opposite that stability and being given a chance might be the answer to take this team forward as well. I also think this team could easily get 7/8th but I'm not gonna go up in arms about it if that position isn't met.
The club as a whole is in a very weird position and has no identity and is trying everything to find one so sadly this isn't gonna take 1-2 seasons it will take probably 4 or 5 depending on how lucky we get in certain situations.
 

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