Manager poll *second International break

[WA Toffee]

It's a little bit of a pointless exercise to be fair given that we fell spectacularly off a cliff and the rat left as soon as he could.
Whether you like Benitez or not, his start is a country mile better than Ancelotti's given the players he's got to work with.

I wouldn't say it is much better, it is very similar, and there are no major losses from the squad from last year (depending on how you view James)
Hopefully the difference this year is that we maintain this standard, but only time will tell.

 

[Neiler]

How many of them did he quit to join another team, as that's what is being discussed, whether he would do a Carlo or not.

At Extremadura, he quit to take a year out to continue studying the game.

At Valencia he quit because they never gave him any of the players he asked for. He had plenty of offers that Summer including Inter. He didn't quit because he got poached though.

He quit Valencia with a year on his contract and went to Mordor after they tapped him up, before his press conference to announce he was leaving there all media outlets were reporting he was the next Mordor manager - which he shortly after became.

He quit Extremandura with his stock high and in contract.

You can try and mitigate the reasons , but its factually incorrect to say hes never walked out on a club who he had a contract with - which you did. Particularly if it meant what he would perceive as taking a better opportunity .

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I think you’re spot on . I actually the the whole think the whole thing around the game, the build up , press conference, interviews, touchline , result , post match everything will play its part . I don’t think it’ll draw a line under him but if a lot of stuff goes in his favour I think it’ll be a big step forward .

Yes mate, if he wants to be taken under the wing of the blue family a statement to the mutants will go a long way to winning hearts and minds - in some ways regardless of the result.

A few choice words like sly digs and he will begin to realise what Shankley did - that those that moved into our old gaff are plazzie no-mark glory hunters, with no dignity, no class, and no honour.

Kopites really are gobshides.?

 

[Earwigjoe]

A win against the RS will be the Rubicon for RB

I think you’re spot on . I actually think the whole thing around the game, the build up , press conference, interviews, touchline , result , post match everything will play its part . I don’t think it’ll draw a line under him but if a lot of stuff goes in his favour I think it’ll be a big step forward .

Agree, lets see how the derby pans out first. He has to behave as an Everton manager whatever the result. He, we and they have to see/know hes 100% us now. No waves, hugs and kisses for them no Everton manager does that, they have to despise him like they despise all Evertonians. Hes not here as part of a peace treaty we dont like them and they dont like us which is the way it should be. If he walks like a duck talks like a duck and acts like a duck hes a duck.

 

[Death]

5%

 

[Drico]

Hasn't he already bombed out there before?

I doubt we have to worry about him going there

If Newcastle ever get this mythical Saudi money then I guess there's always a chance they could tempt him away

Whatever about Real Madrid - the biggest club in the world - tempting him back, if Moshiri and co lose him to a newly-minted Newcastle then they will be exposed as frauds. If Senor Benitez is to compete - which is what he says he is here to do - then he will need to be furnished with the fiduciary means to have a proper go. If Moshiri fails in this basic requirement to keep a key employee, then we may as well accept that we will never compete under the current ownership.

Given the financial rules, Newcastle, even under the despots, will not be able to do a City. That means that they can only offer so much to Benitez - and I would suggest nothing over and above what we could if Moshiri is putting his money where his mouth is. Now, however, if the Mosh is genuinely entering a period of protracted austerity, then Benitez will be well within his rights to follow the money and pitch his tent elsewhere. If you want to keep an elite coach, you need to allow him to compete. If Koeman and Silva can be allowed riches (that were pissed away), it's an obligation to afford the same courtesy to our tactically-astute Iberian overlord (providing Brands is nowhere near it when it comes to spending).

So, I have no fear of losing Senor Benitez. We will back him. If we don't, we're basically finished under the Mosh and can begin the process of forcing him out. If Benitez fails, the Mosh is in trouble. If Benitez succeeds, the Mosh will have to find the funds to keep him. If he doesn't, he's back in the deep stuff with no fig leaf of ambition to protect his modesty.

 

[Terrarian]

 

[blulouie]

I think he’s doing a good job , personally I can’t really take to him but I think so far he’s both exceeded my expectations and got some fight back into a squad that looked devoid of exactly that whilst the signings of Townsend and gray have been excellent .

however this idea that he’s almost universally popular or rather who he is isn’t an ‘issue ‘ when despite this start as a new manager not once has his name been the crowd seems bizarre. A new manager with this start is going to get his name sung and rightly so but because of who he is it doesn’t happen and that’s understandable but that idea that isn’t a thing and pretending it isn’t feels odd. That doesn’t mean his tenure isn’t going well I’m not claiming that more it seems glaringly obvious he has baggage , why deny it ?

Careful now.

You'll have the "Way you should think Police " after you.

Apart from the cup exit & a careless half hour at Villa results have been very good.

 

[Harryflashman]

Careful now.

You'll have the "Way you should think Police " after you.

Apart from the cup exit & a careless half hour at Villa results have been very good.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Ha

Agree, lets see how the derby pans out first. He has to behave as an Everton manager whatever the result. He, we and they have to see/know hes 100% us now. No waves, hugs and kisses for them no Everton manager does that, they have to despise him like they despise all Evertonians. Hes not here as part of a peace treaty we dont like them and they dont like us which is the way it should be. If he walks like a duck talks like a duck and acts like a duck hes a duck.

Have u been on the beak? You're quackers

 

[woodsyni]

Agree, but there are some sad individuals are desperate for him and the team to fail.
Given the players Benitez has had to work with, his start is much better than Ancelotti's, that's without a doubt.

Still haven't seen any posters saying that they want the team to fail. There's a pattern of both sides assigning positions and beliefs to the 'other side'. Surely after Ancelotti, it is actually sensible to be cautious. Loads of great Blues here who are simply divided by how much or little they like the manager. all going round in circles now.

 

[Goat]

Still haven't seen any posters saying that they want the team to fail. There's a pattern of both sides assigning positions and beliefs to the 'other side'. Surely after Ancelotti, it is actually sensible to be cautious. Loads of great Blues here who are simply divided by how much or little they like the manager. all going round in circles now.

Agreed, its 1 big circle jerk.

At the end of the day there shouldnt be an Everton fan unhappy with our start this season, now clearly the manager has helped that happen. So people like me who dislike the manager, we are still very happy with our start. I get that some arent happy about the QPR result and thats up to them, personally I dont really care about such things.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

History says he won't be gone if he does well or does not do well.

In his whole managerial career, he has never left a club when he is still under contract, unless it was the clubs decision.

Recent history of Everton Football Club should not be discounted. We have had 10 mangers since moyes left at the end of 12/13 season, 6 if you don't include the caretaker managers.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

At the end of the day there shouldnt be an Everton fan unhappy with our start this season, now clearly the manager has helped that happen. So people like me who dislike the manager, we are still very happy with our start. I get that some arent happy about the QPR result and thats up to them, personally I dont really care about such things.

This basically.

I'm not sure I'll ever like Benitez to be honest (and it's only in small part down to his RS links and past utterances about us), but if he brings us stability or - god forbid - some modicum of success, I'll certainly respect him

 

[Death]

Cheese on toast absolutely roasting the Nos. Not even a contest.