Let's be a bit more thankful

[sbbefc]

We shouldn't be accepting mediocrity but we shouldn't be reacting negatively to every setback either (I'm just as guilty for it). We have to look at our long term trends not week by week results. We're always going to have setbacks as we're (currently) a middling club with some very average players in the squad.

Taking a step back, we have improved now three seasons in a row (assuming we finish higher this season). Season by season progress is the key thing for me, even if it's small increments. So far we are still improving and showing progress. If we don't show any signs of progression next season then I'll start to question the board and management. But as it stands, I'm fine with how it's going.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Our Moyesy, who art at Finch Farm,
Hallowed be Thy team sheet.
Thy new stadium come,
Goodison Park be done,
B.M.D. as it was in planning.

Give us this game, our weekly three points,
And forgive us Barrys missed sitters,
As we forgive those who VAR against us.
Lead us not into relegation scraps,
But deliver us a magnificent 7th.

Amen.

 

[barneygumble]

To be fair it didn't under Emery. He joined in November 2022, and Villa qualified for the Conference League that season going from something like 16th or 17th when he joined.

I dont want miracles, but I do want progress. Feel its being instilled that "look how bad it was, this is better" is good enough.

Anyone could raise the bar on where we where pre-TFG, even Dyche I reckon.

We have had more excuses than the Royals with Andrew. Yes, we have injuries, but so does everyone else.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

Wasn't that long ago we were sticking our Directors in headlocks, I'm thankful that we have grown as a fan base since then.

 

[windymiller]

As the manager and the players have acknowledged: to lose by two goals against Brentford with the advantage of home support is unacceptable. However, 20 years ago, we were being sold a move out of our city to Kirkby and we had just lost 4-0 at home... to Bolton Wanderers!

It has been a dreadful few weeks (and a dreadful few decades!), but things could be so much worse.

What a weird sentiment. Being thankful for things not being as bad as they could be is proper serf mentality. We should always strive for better, that's a virtue not a flaw. Being thankful after getting battered at home by a club with more limited resources than us is a bizarre response.

 

[Cels]

Many a tear has to fall... but it's all... in the game
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[Swartzy]

It took Villa 12 months under a strong manager to shift the mentality and be in a European Hunt.

It took Newcastle 18 months and a strong manager to shift mentality and be in European hunt.

Dyche set the bar low; is it better? Yes... should it be even better? For me yes.

The only thing ill be thankful of is No Kenwright, No Moshiri, and the Stadium. Management wise, lots to be desired (in my opinion)

Emery - brilliant manager and look at that squad he had to work with.

Howe - very good man manager, spent on experience, and brought spirit back to the club..

Both very good achievements, one already had a very good squad, one went with experienced signings.

 

[Moomin]

Even if we get relegated I will be thankful that I'm not possessed by the ghost of Dale Winton.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Even if we get relegated I will be thankful that I'm not possessed by the ghost of Dale Winton.

 

[matty1878]

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We need to stop setting low bars like "it's not as bad as ........". It's one of the huge reasons TFG have a massive job on their hands. The Club has been nurtured for the last 40 years with a defeatist, inferiority complex that needs to be totally eradicated before we can improve consistently. Hopefully, being the very driven and successful businessmen they are they realise this and won't allow it to stretch into their watch.

BS mate they’re is a bigger picture to the rebuild - he’s referring to how bad it could been to me going of the past 4 years for sure

 

[matty1878]

Even if we get relegated I will be thankful that I'm not possessed by the ghost of Dale Winton.

on topic

 

[brieverton]

We've already spent approaching nearly half of a person's average life span in a mix of both managed decline and total chaos.

I was in primary school the last time we won the league and at uni the FA Cup.

Now retirement is not as far off as it used to be and I take an interest in pension fund performance and the like.

I'm appreciative of the new stadium and the stabilisation of the club but time is of the essence.

There is no guarantee that we will go on to have a couple of seasons that Villa are having or the sort of decade or more that Spurs have had and that hasn't exactly been trophy-laden either. I'd still take it gladly.

My expectations are both pragmatic, and dare I say that awful word, realistic, but last Sunday was quintessentially Everton and quintessentially David Moyes. Arguably our best result of the season followed up by our worst.

Moyes has to take a lot of the responsibility for it and whilst he was the right man to get us out of trouble, I have a depressingly healthy scepticism that he is going to do an Unai Emery in the next 18 months, and we don't have time to spare.

 

[PercyPlant]

WE ALL have short memories, it’s revisionism. Think back to when we were so bad under Silva the club threw him under bus and had him to Anfield away so whoever took charge wouldn’t have that as first game, think to the 3-0 Sunderland defeat under Martinez, resulting in the cancellation of the end of season awards the fans were that angry, think back to those home defeats under Lampard. Losing away at Norwich under FSW. Even Moyes, being knocked out of cup at home to championship Reading (a misery compiled that some of the big hitters were out) the Wigan game also for Moyes.

One result tha sticks with me was us losing under Moyes to a crap Bolton side (the night Howard scored)

Lots of these are individual nights, but some are bad nights in abysmal times, Martinez 2nd two seasons, yes we had the cup runs but the squad was so so superior to this, Lampard after the palace game, Benitez, the start to the season under Koeman after it finally felt like we did some business which never happened under Kenwright. Even ancelotti was a total flop, look at the home results post Christmas in his full season here, atrocious.

Fact is, we won a game a few weeks ago (can’t remember which one) which meant we could lose every game until mid feb (which we haven’t) and still have more points then at the same point in previous 3 seasons.

We’re (Evertonians) are in a constant run of being on the brink. Short of us winning 6 on the bounce and then losing one, which will never happened, we’re always one result away from people getting down, it’s important to only take too much note of the reasonable fans, not the ones who have it in for Moyes (or any future manager for that matter)

 

[jaycee]

1- we shouldn’t mistake the pissy panted on the megaphone a representative of Evertonians, they’re a performative fringe.
2- it’s just a game, lads, put your self worth in you not a corporate soccer team.
3- I’n head patting like a mf as it’s super bloo ego kryptonite.
4- Everton are getting better just not at the pace the thick and entitled demand.
5- kiss girls

 

[canuckblue]

Seems like it's two steps forward, one step sideways and one step back at the moment. For the club and our midfield.