Let's be a bit more thankful

[Bluelenny1984]

I'd have been thankful to start the season with a properly balanced squad. Having to play right footed CM at LB long before the season was at the halfway point...was having at least two competent players for every position too much to expect?

The club has said multiple times they couldn’t fix everything in one window, so yeah to much to expect I fear!

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

It's midtable mediocrity...would've bit yiur hand of last season.
We have been a better watch.
And away from home were doing OK.
We'll probably fall at the 1st hurdle in the facup,which will annoy us,I predict another 1st winner this season or Sunderland.

 

[Bryan+]

As the manager and the players have acknowledged: to lose by two goals against Brentford with the advantage of home support is unacceptable. However, 20 years ago, we were being sold a move out of our city to Kirkby and we had just lost 4-0 at home... to Bolton Wanderers!

It has been a dreadful few weeks (and a dreadful few decades!), but things could be so much worse.

Bill, is… that you?

 

[Milkman]

Bill, is… that you?

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Good old Goodison, just as I remember it

 

[smileychap]

As the manager and the players have acknowledged: to lose by two goals against Brentford with the advantage of home support is unacceptable. However, 20 years ago, we were being sold a move out of our city to Kirkby and we had just lost 4-0 at home... to Bolton Wanderers!

It has been a dreadful few weeks (and a dreadful few decades!), but things could be so much worse.

Great post. Similarly helpful reminder from @kreskin who remarked Thiago ripping through us on Sat was like a flashback to Efan Ekoku doing the same in days of yore!

We're in a rebuilding phase. Stadium done.

Team not done. Far from it. And I'm hugely grateful for V1 and V2 Moyes, so far. He deserves to finish stabilizing us this and next season even, to be judged on a squad he's helped shape.

But the ad hoc no shows ( spurs, barcodes, Brentford etc ) need contrasting to the job that I feel genuinely superior managers like Emery could do for us.

Right now the squad is reduced in key areas, it's hard to pin individual moments of lower quality on Moyes alone. Likewise the PTSD in our defence from sequential seasons of relegation threat.

I'm still hopeful that we'll finish strong under Moyes in the top half, as Europe and cup runs slow the top half around us. But I wanna see us hurt teams and appear capable of wanting and chasing wins, and break teams down. This is something Moyes and the players can and need to start showing NOW, to also merit more time.

 

[Groucho]

As the manager and the players have acknowledged: to lose by two goals against Brentford with the advantage of home support is unacceptable. However, 20 years ago, we were being sold a move out of our city to Kirkby and we had just lost 4-0 at home... to Bolton Wanderers!

It has been a dreadful few weeks (and a dreadful few decades!), but things could be so much worse.

I agree. You can still be disappointed with the Brentford performance and still appreciate the progress overall.

Balance and context are key.

 

[Bluebonic]

I will accept the occasional bad results, because all teams have them.
I will accept that the new ground is a massive step forward in terms of revenue production
I will accept that our best players (by a long, long way) are either injured or away on Afcon duties and our play and results are suffering because of it.
I will accept if we don’t get a number of players in this window

I will not accept (nor should any other Evertonian) another season with a ‘make do and mend’ full back situation.

We have the worst full backs in the prem, possibly the EFL too. It would be too much to ask that both positions are addressed in this window, but to not line up one decent attacking full back (even on loan) would be criminal.

 

[davids]

The club has said multiple times they couldn’t fix everything in one window, so yeah to much to expect I fear!

They could have fixed the RB position,they tried once then threw their hand in. And for me that's been the issue that's defined our season as a fight for mid table respectability.

 

[Scally1878]

we have had many crap home results over the years

Watford was a very special one

Wigan in the cup was interesting

We lost 6-2 to spurs in 2018

It happens

Wigan 0-3 in the fa cup quarters was on my mind the worst game I’ve ever been to. I was only like 8/9 so was absolutely heartbroken, but that Bournemouth 2-3 game last season definetly has strong contention.

 

[davids]

Wigan 0-3 in the fa cup quarters was on my mind the worst game I’ve ever been to. I was only like 8/9 so was absolutely heartbroken, but that Bournemouth 2-3 game last season definetly has strong contention.

Nothing will ever trump Carlisle beating us at Goodison. A season when we could and should have won the League being beaten home and away by the rock bottom side in the division is for me the all time low.

 

[peterw]

It took Villa 12 months under a strong manager to shift the mentality and be in a European Hunt.

It took Newcastle 18 months and a strong manager to shift mentality and be in European hunt.

Dyche set the bar low; is it better? Yes... should it be even better? For me yes.

The only thing ill be thankful of is No Kenwright, No Moshiri, and the Stadium. Management wise, lots to be desired (in my opinion)

To be fair it didn't under Emery. He joined in November 2022, and Villa qualified for the Conference League that season going from something like 16th or 17th when he joined.

 

[Drico]

we have had many crap home results over the years

Watford was a very special one

Wigan in the cup was interesting

We lost 6-2 to spurs in 2018

It happens

And each of those results proved the beginning of the end for the manager in question.

 

[Drico]

Bill, is… that you?

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Fair play. He managed to take us to Kirkby after all...

 

[smileychap]

I will accept the occasional bad results, because all teams have them.
I will accept that the new ground is a massive step forward in terms of revenue production
I will accept that our best players (by a long, long way) are either injured or away on Afcon duties and our play and results are suffering because of it.
I will accept if we don’t get a number of players in this window

I will not accept (nor should any other Evertonian) another season with a ‘make do and mend’ full back situation.

We have the worst full backs in the prem, possibly the EFL too. It would be too much to ask that both positions are addressed in this window, but to not line up one decent attacking full back (even on loan) would be criminal.

100%

 

[Captain Bligh]

Bill, is… that you?

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Even our groundsman was rubbish back then. Couldn’t really master marking out a regulation football pitch.