2025/26 Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[Charro]

I think Newcastle Brighton and Bournemouth are all better than us. Brighton is close, Bournemouth maybe not anymore without Semenyo. And Fulham is close too.

Seven games against the teams above with only one defeat and five wins.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Seven games against the teams above with only one defeat and five wins.

Well that’s certainly not true because we lost to Newcastle and Bournemouth at home, but beyond that sometimes you’ll get totally outplayed like we were at Bournemouth and then a deflection goes in so you win 1-0.

The point here is that results are masking a lack of actual quality. We’re winning games without doing certain things we probably need to in order to keep winning games. The rent usually comes due.

 

[Viennablue]

I have him on multiple sites at 6 goals 3 assists, the same as Iliman.

It’s going to rile people up, but I still don’t see it as particularly impressive for the role he has. He’s essentially a second striker in attack. He also takes set pieces a lot. The production could be greater.

But beyond that I don’t think the goal return is repeatable. It’s a purple patch. He doesn’t shoot enough to keep scoring like this. And when you throw that on top of his passing game, which is mostly conservative and safe, I just don’t enjoy it or believe in it still.

He’s awesome at making that underlapping run in the inside left channel though. If it were possible to build an entire attack out of one run he’d be world class.

I don’t know if I’d call it a purple patch. His goals and assists have come pretty spaced out over the season. Hopefully there are more to come.

Also even if it is only 6 goals and 3 assists (I’ll concede that Premier League official trumps transfermarkt), that’s still the same as N‘Diaye, who we‘d all agree is a great player for us.

Ok, maybe there are some players who could offer more. But to get one you’ll have to pay MASSIVE money or unearth some gem from the lower leagues/abroad who no one knows about. Good luck with that! Plus I’d argue we need to spend money elsewhere in the team.

But at the end of the day what you like/don‘t like is subjective so I can’t really argue with you there. Fair enough.

 

[Viennablue]

It just highlights that Big Oil doesn't actually understand football. He can't appreciate the nuances and intangibles that KDH brings to the team.

Haha, I see.

I mean, I guess he’s entitled to say „I don’t like his style of play“, and I suppose it’s fair enough.

When I used to have my season ticket the guy next to me always went on about how much he loved Tobias Linderoth, and always described him as „a proper little player“. I could never understand why he liked him so much but I didn’t want to make him feel bad so I just used to say „yeah, he’s great isn’t he!“.

Plus my new attitude is to be nice to blues on here. I’m sure he’s a good guy, despite our differing views on KDH.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I don’t know if I’d call it a purple patch. His goals and assists have come pretty spaced out over the season. Hopefully there are more to come.

Also even if it is only 6 goals and 3 assists (I’ll concede that Premier League official trumps transfermarkt), that’s still the same as N‘Diaye, who we‘d all agree is a great player for us.

Ok, maybe there are some players who could offer more. But to get one you’ll have to pay MASSIVE money or unearth some gem from the lower leagues/abroad who no one knows about. Good luck with that! Plus I’d argue we need to spend money elsewhere in the team.

But at the end of the day what you like/don‘t like is subjective so I can’t really argue with you there. Fair enough.

Here’s the thing: I’m kinda disappointed in Ndiaye’s season too. I wanted to see him take a step and I don’t think he has. Now the root of all this is the manager and I’ll concede that maybe a different manager with a more coherent attacking plan gets more out of everyone KDH included.

But for me when I watch Ndiaye I see him looking to play in the way I’d expect someone in his position to play, especially when he’s on the left. I just don’t see it the same with KDH. The risk reward balance is wrong. The constant attention to how to threaten and open up teams that the best creators have isn’t there. He’s more concerned with moving the ball along and completing passes imo, which has a place in a team, but that place isn’t the guy playing off the striker.

I know I’m very much alone in this opinion but whatever, it’s still how I see it. I’ve been very wrong about the guy generally and I’ll admit to that, I expected a disaster, but I still think his best role isn’t what he’s been doing this season. What we’re having him do now is limiting our attacking play.

 

[pfim]

Not sure I want to be involved in this discussion, but the question to ask, I think, is whether KDH would be as productive (or close) playing the 8 as he has been this season at the 10. To me, I think he would.

The next question, then, is would Moyes give more license to a different player playing the 10? That I'm not sure of, not with our mostly-aged CM and CBs.

 

[Tommy Chong]

I don’t know if I’d call it a purple patch. His goals and assists have come pretty spaced out over the season. Hopefully there are more to come.

Also even if it is only 6 goals and 3 assists (I’ll concede that Premier League official trumps transfermarkt), that’s still the same as N‘Diaye, who we‘d all agree is a great player for us.

Ok, maybe there are some players who could offer more. But to get one you’ll have to pay MASSIVE money or unearth some gem from the lower leagues/abroad who no one knows about. Good luck with that! Plus I’d argue we need to spend money elsewhere in the team.

But at the end of the day what you like/don‘t like is subjective so I can’t really argue with you there. Fair enough.

From 2 weeks ago, mate… Even better stats now after the weekend:

One cost massive money, the other one didn’t…

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Haha, I see.

I mean, I guess he’s entitled to say „I don’t like his style of play“, and I suppose it’s fair enough.

When I used to have my season ticket the guy next to me always went on about how much he loved Tobias Linderoth, and always described him as „a proper little player“. I could never understand why he liked him so much but I didn’t want to make him feel bad so I just used to say „yeah, he’s great isn’t he!“.

Plus my new attitude is to be nice to blues on here. I’m sure he’s a good guy, despite our differing views on KDH.

Maybe he was related? I think there is a range of views that are tolerable and people can differ but some takes are just so wild that they need to be called out.

 

[Viennablue]

From 2 weeks ago, mate… Even better stats now after the weekend:
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One cost massive money, the other one didn’t…

Yeah, massive money doesn’t always guarantee a return. It helps but it’s no guarantee.

I’d seen the 6 goals 5 assists too. I thought that’s what he had, but in fairness I think Premier League stats only have him on 6 and 3. still decent though.

I like him and think he’s been a great positive this season.

 

[Tommy Chong]

Yeah, massive money doesn’t always guarantee a return. It helps but it’s no guarantee.

I’d seen the 6 goals 5 assists too. I thought that’s what he had, but in fairness I think Premier League stats only have him on 6 and 3. still decent though.

I like him and think he’s been a great positive this season.

And he’s young, so there’s still tonnes of potential for him to get better, mate…

 

[Username.]

Here’s the thing: I’m kinda disappointed in Ndiaye’s season too. I wanted to see him take a step and I don’t think he has. Now the root of all this is the manager and I’ll concede that maybe a different manager with a more coherent attacking plan gets more out of everyone KDH included.

But for me when I watch Ndiaye I see him looking to play in the way I’d expect someone in his position to play, especially when he’s on the left. I just don’t see it the same with KDH. The risk reward balance is wrong. The constant attention to how to threaten and open up teams that the best creators have isn’t there. He’s more concerned with moving the ball along and completing passes imo, which has a place in a team, but that place isn’t the guy playing off the striker.

I know I’m very much alone in this opinion but whatever, it’s still how I see it. I’ve been very wrong about the guy generally and I’ll admit to that, I expected a disaster, but I still think his best role isn’t what he’s been doing this season. What we’re having him do now is limiting our attacking play.

Mate are you sure you are an Evertonian, because to be honest your posts say you at a crossroads.

 

[RomanReigns]

from where i am sat you can clearly see how vital he is to our movement going forward and our interplay

i wouldn't be suprised if he runs the most out of all our players

he's like the duracell bunny

 

[TheBigIguana]

Mate are you sure you are an Evertonian, because to be honest your posts say you at a crossroads.

I’ve seen this movie too many times. We win games and get to about this exact spot in the league and everyone starts talking about Europe and how great everything is and we just ignore all the flaws. We’re not doing anything about any of our weak points either. Just hoping they dont matter.

I was texting friends this morning about how we might have a Merseyside derby for a CL spot coming up. And at the same time I can’t help but think this is 13/14, or 16/17, or 19/20 all over again.

 

[TheBigIguana]

from where i am sat you can clearly see how vital he is to our movement going forward and our interplay

i wouldn't be suprised if he runs the most out of all our players

he's like a duracell rabbit

Is this post about Abdoulaye Doucoure?

 

[RomanReigns]

Is this post about Abdoulaye Doucoure?

no, read the thread title