If you dont like it ... as my old Nan used to say. You can Koff.
Could not agree more, fantastic stadium but our home form has been bloody awful (I think 8 home defeats inc the Sunderland cup match). Luckily our away form has helped us. Coming home from home defeats as made me think why the hell do I bother, but as we all do we turn up for the next home match with optimism !!As somebody who goes to every home game but isn't going to aways I'd say this season has been up there with the least enjoyable seasons I've ever had. The stadium is great but the home form has been appalling, the football has been dull and the kick off times have been a colossal pain in the arse. I really enjoyed the Brighton game and the Chelsea game, other than that it's been a real chore.
If you prefer to live in ignorant bliss don't come on here gaslighting everyone else that we are just "Ambitionless".
I kind of agree with you that in the cold light of day, Liverpool most of the time want it more. There players are hyped to max, Suarez dive in front of Moyes, Van Dijk many headed goals, Gerrard cupping ears, Fowler sniffing lines. Most of their players have beef in a way we don't. Maybe their own egos despise being disliked who knows. Definitely they treat it like a cup final and we don't.
Yes I get the relegation thing is great and its certainly worth mentioning. Don't think it brings us joy though.Was Oldham until last season.
No relegation a big deal though. Question is would you trade Everton's last 30 years for Leicester's? They've won a Premier League title, Championship titles, League One titles, an FA Cup, 3 League Cups, a Charity Shield, A Champions League quarter final, another European semi final; but have also been relegated a bunch of times and had financial meltdowns. The success Leicester have had have never elevated them as a club either. They'd never be classed as a big club like Everton still are with most top flight seasons in history. A bit like Blackburn in the 90s/2000s when they were competitive.
We certainly know weve never had success not sure on all others . Im with you on relegation obviously.I'm not sure that's true. Also not entirely sure I want to experience a relegation
Joy Division?I truly believe we are the most joy deprived fanbase in the entire country.
We don’t win silverware.
We hardly ever win a derby.
We just exist in the league we play in.
We regularly go out of the cups in embarrassing fashion.
The majority of football we’ve had to put up with has been terrible on the eye.
We have to sell our best young players because we can’t match their ambition.
Is there anyone more joy deprived than us? I always thought Ipswich were up there but they have had plenty of recent enjoyment.
Anyone else?

I truly believe we are the most joy deprived fanbase in the entire country.
We don’t win silverware.
We hardly ever win a derby.
We just exist in the league we play in.
We regularly go out of the cups in embarrassing fashion.
The majority of football we’ve had to put up with has been terrible on the eye.
We have to sell our best young players because we can’t match their ambition.
Is there anyone more joy deprived than us? I always thought Ipswich were up there but they have had plenty of recent enjoyment.
Anyone else?
Knew a girl called Joy from way back. Lovely lass and trust me she was never deprived.
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