Joy Deprived

[st.domingo]

Pitty we didn't get relegated. We might have had something to enjoy by winning the Championship.

Could easily have done a Leicester

 

[Miked1e]

I would rather view it as character building....

So happy that my sons are blues, we get to experience the games together and enjoy the highs (limited yes) and lows (not big ones) as one.

Would much rather my children grow up like that instead of the alternative: growing up unbelievably entitled, offended by everything and ashamed by nothing.

That is joy to me!

 

[Yarrgh]

I truly believe we are the most joy deprived fanbase in the entire country.

We don’t win silverware.

We hardly ever win a derby.

We just exist in the league we play in.

We regularly go out of the cups in embarrassing fashion.

The majority of football we’ve had to put up with has been terrible on the eye.

We have to sell our best young players because we can’t match their ambition.

Is there anyone more joy deprived than us? I always thought Ipswich were up there but they have had plenty of recent enjoyment.

Anyone else?

Try going to the world football forum. This week we were hammers. It was great fun.

 

[AndyP94]

Could easily have done a Leicester

Shudder to think really.

 

[davek]

Love being an Evertonian. I don't follow a team for joy, it is about other things, loyalty, friendship, resilience.

I genuinely believe that being an Evertonian is the most scouse thing you can do.

It is rejectìng the mainstream.

That's just making a virtue out of a necessity.

I remember winning trophies. That's the most Everton and scouse thing you can do. And you can still reject the mainstream at the same time.

 

[KevMirallas]

It'll just make it that much better when it comes. And it will come.

 

[Lanolin]

I'm not saying I want it to happen more often but at least the relegation scraps in recent seasons made the games matter and gave that dopamine hit of joy for winning the games we really needed to win. There was a long stretch where we just finished somewhere between 6th and 12th every single year and didn't have any meaningful cup runs so seasons were just consistently petering out from about February onwards and if we didn't win the derby you could go a couple of years without having a single properly high moment. Other teams have obviously had it worse with relegations etc but for sheer relentless nothingness we take some beating.

 

[james2805]

It'll just make it that much better when it comes. And it will come.

This.

Winning in the face of adversity will be so much sweeter when we do.

 

[IveGotThe]

There can't be that many Cups to go around outside the FA Cup, League Cup, Papa John's. Relegation/Promotion is overrated I reckon.

 

[mahermi1]

The best thing about it is you don't have to suffer if you don't want to!

Not really true that mate, I for one would find it very hard to just walk away all together, it's almost an addiction, like smoking for instance, enjoyable doing it, but the end result is very rarely any good for you..

Not really serious the end of that post..

 

[nsno_traditionally]

Hope will tear us apart

 

[gazzaa2]

I read a stat. We are the only english club this century to not experience a cup win or promotion or any form of success. Thats depressing

Was Oldham until last season.

No relegation a big deal though. Question is would you trade Everton's last 30 years for Leicester's? They've won a Premier League title, Championship titles, League One titles, an FA Cup, 3 League Cups, a Charity Shield, A Champions League quarter final, another European semi final; but have also been relegated a bunch of times and had financial meltdowns. The success Leicester have had have never elevated them as a club either. They'd never be classed as a big club like Everton still are with most top flight seasons in history. A bit like Blackburn in the 90s/2000s when they were competitive.

 

[HKContractDave]

Could've easily dropped like Leicester/Villa/Newcastle or even Tottenham but we haven't

 

[Moonlight dribble]

That's just making a virtue out of a necessity.

I remember winning trophies. That's the most Everton and scouse thing you can do. And you can still reject the mainstream at the same time.

That's a bonus then. Modern football is about capitalism, those with resources win more, trophies would be amazing sure, although I think there must be more to it than joy alone.

It's a cup final to them, they have better more expensive players that rise to the occasion more because they have more resources. I ain't going to get upset about it.

 

[davek]

That's a bonus then. Modern football is about capitalism, those with resources win more, trophies would be amazing sure, although I think there must be more to it than joy alone.

It's a cup final to them, they have better more expensive players that rise to the occasion more because they have more resources. I ain't going to get upset about it.

That only holds water if it's true that we cant demonstrate we can beat them (we have even in recent years with the massive wealth disparity) and that other club's outside the elite (with much less resources than us) cant beat Liverpool either: but Palace have their number in recent seasons for example.

There's a link between finances and success, but it's not completely determinant. And in no way shape or form does it explain an appalling record of 4 wins and 16 losses to Liverpool in any managers career here. That's down to the individual not being able to motivate players for a derby and keep calm and make the right tactical decisions on the day.

There's nothing structural about his record; it's way beyond those sorts of explanations. It's down to him. He doesn't prioritise these games; it doesn't mean as much to him; and, overwhelmingly, he hasn't got the technical ability in any case to be the difference in these games.