2022/23 Jordan Pickford

Stevie Nicks Bootleg

Player Valuation: £8m
I still think Clemence is a much better goalkeeper than Pickford, I remember him for a lot more than the Dalglish clanger, commanded his goal area much better, one of the reasons Pickford will always lag behind really great keepers, although he can still learn that.
For Liverpool maybe, not for England, which is the point of the comment. Some players have performed far better for club than country in every era- like Clemence in that era (and while we're on the RS, like Hansen, Barnes and even Dalglish too, despite his total caps). Clemence did well to get as many caps as he did, as there was a definite superior rival (Shilton) who was at his peak during Clemence's main period as England's #1.
 
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Cameron Manning

Player Valuation: £35m
For Liverpool maybe, not for England, which is the point of the comment. Some players have performed far better for club than country in every era- like Clemence in that era (and while we're on the RS, like Hansen, Barnes and even Dalglish too, despite his total caps). Clemence did well to get as many caps as he did, as there was a definite superior rival (Shilton) who was at his peak during Clemence's main period as England's #1.
Shilton made a couple of bloomers for England as well although he was rated better than Clemence, who still got plenty of caps for England, let’s be honest here Stevie, Clemence had a lot more competition for the England job than Jordan has today, wouldn’t you agree he is the best of a poor bunch?
 

Kylito

Player Valuation: £2.5m
Need to be getting his contract sorted ASAP really. Be nice if we could sort it before the World Cup.

If we don't get him tied down now then come summer he'll be going into his final 12 months. Probably why United are sniffing about.
 

Mrtallywacker

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As a goalkeeper he’s not as good as Clemence.
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Blast_of_Cannock

Player Valuation: £950k
He’s the only reason England made the World Cup semi final. Saved the shootout against Columbia and then kept Sweden out almost single-handedly in the quarters.

He would have won the euros as well if anyone could have taken a penalty after those saves in the shootout. Made huge saves against Germany as well.

It’s not even a debate. Pickford has a proven tournament record of playing at the highest level. The other goalkeepers haven’t even prove they can play international football yet.

One of the reasons Southgate has done well is he’s ignored the brain dead English media and made his own decisions. They were calling for Butland to start in 2018 (where’s he now?). They despise players from outside the top 6 playing for England. Southgate’s ignored them to select the likes of Pickford, Trippier, Maguire (when at Leicester), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds), Rice etc. all players who have performed well for England in some of their best tournaments for a long time.


I half hope Southgate starts Alexander Arnold, Henderson and Ramsdale and goes out in the group stage so the media would finally learn to stfu when it comes to questioning England selection,
The save he made in the 90th minute from Uribe never gets a mention. It was top corner before he turned it around the post. Best save in the tournament IMO.
 

Toffeeslam

Player Valuation: £35m
He has made some clangers in the past but as a relatively young keeper those are becoming less and less frequent.

He is coming into his prime and as English keepers go he is head and shoulders above anyone else.

He is underrated by the media because he plays for Everton and his English but he is as good as most keepers. I have seen the best keepers around drop some clangers especially Allison as Leicester.

Underrated even by our own fans but really good keeper none the less you can see how much England miss him
 

Toffeepot

Player Valuation: £20m
The media are even criticising his celebrations after making a worldie save. Same as scoring from his perspective, and often from ours too. Give it socks Pickers
 

blueblue

Player Valuation: £50m
I think it is likely that clubs are looking at him , he is turning into an excellent and reliable keeper who is only approaching his prime.
He has shown at Everton and with England that he can handle pressure and criticism.

We won't want to sell, but there will be interest.
 

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £80m
Tone it down Dan,think about Shilton, Clemence before you even get to Banks.

There’s been some very good English keepers who didn’t perform that well at tournaments. Shilton is one of those, horrible errors against Argentina in 86 and Germany in 90 ultimately put us out both tournaments. Seaman in 2002 against Ronaldinho.

Both better keepers than Pickford by almost any metric but in the last two major tournaments Pickford has brought his top game.
 

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £80m
Shilton made a couple of bloomers for England as well although he was rated better than Clemence, who still got plenty of caps for England, let’s be honest here Stevie, Clemence had a lot more competition for the England job than Jordan has today, wouldn’t you agree he is the best of a poor bunch?

Pickford has more competition than recent keepers. Who was Paul Robinson keeping out of the team? Or Joe Hart? Probably only Calamity James and Rob Green. Even Seaman only really had Nigel Martin (brilliant as he was for us).

Pickford has had everyone from Butland, Ben Foster, Fraser Forster, Henderson, Pope, Ramsdale all touted to replace him for the best part of 4 years now. There’s some keepers in there who have been in decent nick for some big clubs at times.
 
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