2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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goodisonopheliac said:
No-one's going to cut your cock off, don't worry. But sorry that I don't want a violent man who'd beat me up. My mum and grandma went through that. I don't want to end up like them. I didn't realise that being a violent psycho was the only way to be a man.

Do you go round punching people as well?
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Nope and I don't condone it.

However for society to suddenly want millions of years of evolution, within all male mammals that generate testosterone which consequently increases aggression levels, to stop is ludicrous. Testosterone us a natural drug that causes a disposition to that response. It prepares the stronger, faster male to be able to protect his herd . It is a natural condition that should not be vilified and called toxic.

To do so is as ludicrous as not wanting fluctuations of oestrogen and progesterone which create emotional responses and the subsequent empathic and sensitive nature required by mammalian mothers who evolution has equipped (physically and biochemically) to take on the more sessile mothering role.

It's sad that we have reached a point where stupid humanity think their reasoning is smarter than evolution.

Although I detest violence I personally would infinitely rather be hit on the jaw and it's all settled (the man way), than have the persistent psychological Chinese water torture of events from years ago being dragged up time and the again with the elephantine memory of a woman wronged (the female way).

For some reason yabbering mindless society in the media seem to be determining that a brief scuffle is wrong, yet prolonged psychological torment is acceptable. I personally can't see why this is, not why the wrongs of the later are seldom raised.

I'll add that in 30 years of teaching, in my experience, I observed that boys settle disputes quickly with a quick few thumps, a graze a lump and they heal. Normally a mutual respect is established.

The only time the trouble persists is if one or both mothers of one if the boys tries to intervene with good intentiins - which only serves to keep the matter going on and in as they seek an end to the matter that matches their own perceived needs.

When girls disagree they argue and say spiteful things and often manipulate others to do the same, quite often causing persistent feuds lasting years and prolonged psychological damage to the victim.

Which is preferable?
 
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chrismpw said:
Yeah I agree, but the world has changed since big dunc.

Men can't be men anymore. It's toxic. We should be meek and mild and humourless while awaiting the gender reassignment that Radio 4 would want us all to have.

Unlike big dunc where the law was used, now the yabbering masses of social Media will judge him and swing the axe.
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What do you actually mean by ‘men can’t be men’? People aren’t allowed to beat people up, it shouldn’t be a cause for concern even if you wish to create a straw man out of gender equality
 
At least he doesn’t have to worry about the bizzies. Representing England means you can smash peoples heads in and it’s all good. ( Ben Stokes anyone :bye:)
 

MarcelsGoat said:
Come on?

Hes supported Sunderland all his life, you cant expect him to just forget he supports them just cos we are paying his wages.

Its not like we dont hate Newcastle either.
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More than ever. It’s refreshing to be able to hate a team who are actually crap and lose games.
 
I know there’s a massive agenda against him and I’ve been guilty of that but is someone started abusing my Mrs in front of me I’d start swinging drunk or not. Yeah you shouldn’t do it, but it’s one of them and most people would do exactly the same.

I know he’s in a different position in life but a man is still going to be a man.
 
chrismpw said:
Nope and I don't condone it.

However for society to suddenly want millions of years of evolution, within all male mammals that generate testosterone which consequently increases aggression levels, to stop is ludicrous. Testosterone us a natural drug that causes a disposition to that response. It prepares the stronger, faster male to be able to protect his herd . It is a natural condition that should not be vilified and called toxic.

To do so is as ludicrous as not wanting fluctuations of oestrogen and progesterone which create emotional responses and the subsequent empathic and sensitive nature required by mammalian mothers who evolution has equipped (physically and biochemically) to take on the more sessile mothering role.

It's sad that we have reached a point where stupid humanity think their reasoning is smarter than evolution.

Although I detest violence I personally would infinitely rather be hit on the jaw and it's all settled (the man way), than have the persistent psychological Chinese water torture of events from years ago being dragged up time and the again with the elephantine memory of a woman wronged (the female way).

For some reason yabbering mindless society in the media seem to be determining that a brief scuffle is wrong, yet prolonged psychological torment is acceptable. I personally can't see why this is, not why the wrongs of the later are seldom raised.

I'll add that in 30 years of teaching, in my experience, I observed that boys settle disputes quickly with a quick few thumps, a graze a lump and they heal. Normally a mutual respect is established.

The only time the trouble persists is if one or both mothers of one if the boys tries to intervene with good intentiins - which only serves to keep the matter going on and in as they seek an end to the matter that matches their own perceived needs.

When girls disagree they argue and say spiteful things and often manipulate others to do the same, quite often causing persistent feuds lasting years and prolonged psychological damage to the victim.

Which is preferable?
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Tin-Tin said:
Apparently ignored the insults until they were aimed at his fiancee. Not condoning it but understandable if true. Disgusting to target her when she has nothing do do with football or rivalries.

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Sorry, but this is total bull. The people involved weren't Mags and nobody insulted his fiance either. Just a story made up to make him come out of this looking better.

His friend was refused entry to a bar for being too drink and he kicked off. The lad he hit was actually out on the drink with him and was trying to calm him down then Pickford decided to crack him the lad he hit is also a doorman.

The 2 videos posted are totally unrelated, in totally different places and about 4 hours apart. He was apparently jumping round the street with his top off at one point.
 
jayonenote said:
But thats not the point.
His hands are his trade....what if those punches had connected...if his hand was damaged or he damaged someone.(.as it stands he committed an assault)
THe point im trying to make is that this will happen again in the same circumstances but the outcome may not be.
He will be a target now for any [Poor language removed] because they know he can be wound up ( its all over twitter and the back of newspapers).
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They punch horses for fun. Never mess with them.
 

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