2018/19 Jordan Pickford

[Parker]

He lost us a creditable, morale boosting result and let his team mates down. I'd hope there'd be some attempt to show humility.

As far as I'm concerned this lad has shown way too much arrogance since he arrived here. He's committed a lot of mistakes this season. Indulging him wont make that stop.

If he makes another mistake tonight he should feel the disastisfaction of the crowd. It's the only way a character like this will learn. He;s a man-child who deminstrates almost no self awareness or discipline. "He's just a baby in goal keeping terms" I've heard as an excuse for him. Well, if you want him to remain infantile then continue to give him a free pass, then continue to watch us pay for it.

Quite possibly the worst idea ever. Lets boo someone who has made a couple of mistakes because that will make them better at what they do. That will have the opposite effect and you know it.

 

[Frang]

He should have his head down at least.

will you be there to booo him dave ?

 

[Frang]

I think @davek should glove up for tonights match...

lets see how he gets on infront of 39,000 expectant everton fans

*loads cabbages and tomatoes into aldi carry bag

 

[hallamblue]

He lost us a creditable, morale boosting result and let his team mates down. I'd hope there'd be some attempt to show humility.

As far as I'm concerned this lad has shown way too much arrogance since he arrived here. He's committed a lot of mistakes this season. Indulging him wont make that stop.

If he makes another mistake tonight he should feel the disastisfaction of the crowd. It's the only way a character like this will learn. He;s a man-child who demonstrates almost no self awareness or self discipline. "He's just a baby in goal keeping terms" I've heard as an excuse for him. Well, if you want him to remain infantile continue to give him a free pass, then continue to watch us pay for it.

Anybody who has watched football over the years knows that nothing ruins a goalkeeper more than the crowd getting on his back. And Pickford is nowhere near bad enough to warrant that. I've seen a number of goalies who reached that point, even Neville at the end, bless him. But what you are doing is engaging in an unnecessary witch hunt against a generally solid goalkeeper.

 

[davek]

Quite possibly the worst idea ever. Lets boo someone who has made a couple of mistakes because that will make them better at what they do. That will have the opposite effect and you know it.

I didn't say boo.

 

[Eggs]

..I like him but I don’t fully trust him. I was starting to trust him because he seemed to be maturing and taking less risk but Sunday’s was a major error of judgement at a key time in a key match. He’ll be remembered for that error, especially by opposition fans.

He now needs to start rebuilding trust and that will take time.

 

[davek]

Anybody who has watched football over the years knows that nothing ruins a goalkeeper more than the crowd getting on his back. And Pickford is nowhere near bad enough to warrant that. I've seen a number of goalies who reached that point, even Neville at the end, bless him. But what you are doing is engaging in an unnecessary witch hunt against a generally solid goalkeeper.

That's not true. I'm pointing out that - counter to what most people apparently think - he's not an exceptional talent. He's poor in many respects, and he needs to realise that he has to step it up, because he needs us more than we need him. No elite club will hand him a start. He needs to find concentration levels and self-discipline from somewhere or he's going the way of David James and Joe Hart.

 

[hallamblue]

..I like him but I don’t fully trust him. I was starting to trust him because he seemed to be maturing and taking less risk but Sunday’s was a major error of judgement at a key time in a key match. He’ll be remembered for that error, especially by opposition fans.

He now needs to start rebuilding trust and that will take time.

To be fair Eggs, he wouldn't be the first player to make a panicky decision in the last minute of a derby. Van Dijk made one to hit that volley, it just worked out better for him!!

 

[Toast]

..I like him but I don’t fully trust him. I was starting to trust him because he seemed to be maturing and taking less risk but Sunday’s was a major error of judgement at a key time in a key match. He’ll be remembered for that error, especially by opposition fans.

He now needs to start rebuilding trust and that will take time.

Totally agree.

He needs to knock the joking about with the fans on the head as well.
I'm convinced he wanted to catch it just to banter the reds behind him you know.

 

[canuckblue]

It seems a few on here are just a step or two away from sending a Dear Karius tweet. I thought we as a fanbase were better than that. I'm as gutted as anyone else with that result and how it came about, but I'm not about to get on the kid's back because of it. As a youngster, I played goal (albeit in ice hockey) and I remember all too well how it felt to make a mistake that cost your team a game. It's then when you really need the support of teammates and fans, because if they turn on you, you're done.

 

[hallamblue]

That's not true. I'm pointing out that - counter to what most people apparently think - he's not an exceptional talent. He's poor in many respects, and he needs to realise that he has to step it up, because he needs us more than we need him. No elite club will hand him a start. He needs to find concentration levels and self-discipline from somewhere or he's going the way of David James and Joe Hart.

I didn't say he was an exceptional talent, I said he was a generally solid goalkeeper. He's not an exceptional goalkeeper, he's at the level Tim Howard was at for most of his Everton career. Howard threw in 2 or 3 mistakes a season, until the last year or so when he made them every week. If Pickford starts letting in 90% of shots or diving out of the way every week like Howard did, then you can pillory him.

 

[Yorkie89]

..I like him but I don’t fully trust him. I was starting to trust him because he seemed to be maturing and taking less risk but Sunday’s was a major error of judgement at a key time in a key match. He’ll be remembered for that error, especially by opposition fans.

He now needs to start rebuilding trust and that will take time.

Goalkeepers will always make howlers at one point or another it’s about how he bounces back. He will likely take it on board and maybe not try so many risks.

I think this get on his back if he does something wrong is a ridiculous thing to do as some are suggesting.

 

[davek]

I didn't say he was an exceptional talent, I said he was a generally solid goalkeeper. He's not an exceptional goalkeeper, he's at the level Tim Howard was at for most of his Everton career. Howard threw in 2 or 3 mistakes a season, until the last year or so when he made them every week. If Pickford starts letting in 90% of shots or diving out of the way every week like Howard did, then you can pillory him.

I wish.

 

[Parker]

I didn't say boo.

So how would you as a member of the crowd show your dissatisfaction?

 

[COYBL25]

Anybody who has watched football over the years knows that nothing ruins a goalkeeper more than the crowd getting on his back. And Pickford is nowhere near bad enough to warrant that. I've seen a number of goalies who reached that point, even Neville at the end, bless him. But what you are doing is engaging in an unnecessary witch hunt against a generally solid goalkeeper.

If Emperor @davek had his way, Lions and Tigers would let out onto the pitch after each goal keeping mistake, in a gladiatorial fight to the death.

That way he`d either learn from his mistakes or get torn to pieces, leaving Burnley`s third choice stand warmer, Pope, to pick up the pieces.