Not for me like, winning is what matters, I don't care how well we've played, if we lose I feel **** and if we win I feel ace, I don't care how we win because if we're doing it often you can be sure I'll be going home with a big grin on my face.
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evilwebby
Player Valuation: £50m
You can win a football match by outplaying the other team, or failing that, by outfighting them. Sure, you don't NEED to outplay them, but it helps immeasurably if you can. One thing is for sure- if you are neither as good nor as committed, then you are basically relying on luck.
I like the fact that we can put crosses in from both sides , knowing there is a quality striker in there waiting for it.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Fair enough mate. We're all different and have different viewpoints, but we're all Evertonians
Know what you mean about losing though !!
Fair enough mate. We're all different and have different viewpoints, but we're all Evertonians
Know what you mean about losing though !!
Is right.
Elong
The fire rises
My opinion as an armchair fan may differ from the matchday going fan, because I haven't spent any hard earned cash to watch Everton play, but I would rather watch us play entertaining footy than grind out results purely on the basis that watching a ****ty 1 nil or 0 0 draw at 3am makes it hard to keep the eyes open!
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
i'm absolutely gutted every time we lose no matter how we play. i can see why people are saying i'd rather finish 15th playing pretty football instead of 7th playing dull dross because they both bring the same success, but surely nobody on here would say i'd rather us finish 9th playing beautiful footy instead of finishing league champions grinding out 1-0 wins week in week out. the start of last season was barbaric because we were playing utter dross and still drawing to teams like blackburn. even though we dominated, it wasn't great on the eye. i always believed that moyes was a really defensively minded manager (he still said last week that we need to avoid relegation 1st then take it from there :0), but now i believe that he just didn't think we had the right players to play the RIGHT way and i can see why he thought that way.
anyway, luckily we're being treated to the most beautiful football in any part of my lifetime and producing great results and long may it continue. i mean 30 shots away at swansea, i know people will say they're a bad team but only us and newcastle went to the liberty last year and won by more than 1 goal (and newcastle's was a fluke) so to beat them by 3 and should have been about 6, is some top top stuff. hopefully moyes doesn't do what davek says and go backwards, but i think the positive things he's said so far this season tend not to suggest such.
anyway, luckily we're being treated to the most beautiful football in any part of my lifetime and producing great results and long may it continue. i mean 30 shots away at swansea, i know people will say they're a bad team but only us and newcastle went to the liberty last year and won by more than 1 goal (and newcastle's was a fluke) so to beat them by 3 and should have been about 6, is some top top stuff. hopefully moyes doesn't do what davek says and go backwards, but i think the positive things he's said so far this season tend not to suggest such.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £30m
I believe that grinding out results sometimes is necessary and good, but you want entertainment as well. I'm loving these attacking displays and always going for more goals, enough to see us through. Scoring 3 goals in 3 of our first 6 league games is amazing for us because at various times under moyes we've been grinding out 1-0s. I remember some seasons over the past 15 years where scoring more than 2 goals happened once or twice a season. I'm loving watching us now.
There have been some games against lesser clubs where it's been so boring I went home from the games feeling flat. 04/05 was great for obvious reasons because we had something to play for but similar 1-0 up and defend scrappy games in other seasons were terrible.
I remember a game against derby from a few years ago. The team with single figure points, who were getting spanked all over the place and effectively relegated in march, yet we needed a reasonably late jagielka header to fight out a win. The game was so poor I wanted to be anywhere else and left feeling utterly depressed.
Now we'd run away with games like that, and with this set of players we'd expect to as well; which is the difference. We expect to win in style at the moment, and I absolutely love it.
There have been some games against lesser clubs where it's been so boring I went home from the games feeling flat. 04/05 was great for obvious reasons because we had something to play for but similar 1-0 up and defend scrappy games in other seasons were terrible.
I remember a game against derby from a few years ago. The team with single figure points, who were getting spanked all over the place and effectively relegated in march, yet we needed a reasonably late jagielka header to fight out a win. The game was so poor I wanted to be anywhere else and left feeling utterly depressed.
Now we'd run away with games like that, and with this set of players we'd expect to as well; which is the difference. We expect to win in style at the moment, and I absolutely love it.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £30m
I also believe united away (and the aftermath of the Wembley fiasco) led to this new sense of adventure - it showed what giving it a go does for you. Big test is the derby though....attack them and win and then ill fully believe he's changed!
Thorny
Player Valuation: £750k
haha i totally understand...watching games early in the mornings is hard enough, and then having to wait until the 80th minute to finally watch us try to bang in a last minute goal.
Elong
The fire rises
It has been painful at times honestly hasn't it! At least it's a couple hours earlier for you lot mind.
But then I also understand people wanting results. Obviously I'd take Champions League (4th) over any, any style of football, just get us there, but 5th-15th? It's just prizemoney for the loans, and that's another argument entirely.
Summerskin
Player Valuation: £35m
The jammy Blackburn away win last season is the reason why "3 points is all that matters" isn't always as clear cut as it seems.
I was in near tears watching that bloody game, horrible.
I was in near tears watching that bloody game, horrible.
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