Initial 10, then reduced to 6 + 2 Point Deductions

[formerly manx toffee]

The worst thing about these rules is that they actively encourage selling youth players. That’s completely against the spirit of the game, and will contribute to the game losing its soul even more than it already has, if that’s even possible.

I think this is right to an extent. We need to create a puppy farm and sell on lots of youth players. We also need to be able to keep the great ones we see coming through (if)

 

[mikel_88]

I think it was 3rd January last year when we got beat 4-1 at home by Brighton.
Demarai Gray scored in the 92nd minute

Thats how bad it is i cant even remember it,

 

[allezlesbleus]

Brighton H last year. Already 4-0 down with a minute left, so an utter nothing penalty anyway.

Leicester away was our last penalty Dom smashed it in

Quite a big apparent contrast between the importance and value of those pens. But last year, every goal counted to help or goal difference against our relegation rivals. Even in defeat it is important to keep an “every goal matters” mentality.

 

[ToffeeTim]

In other times, those clubs would spend regardless of timing if they needed reinforcements, which they do.

Big deals don't happen often in January. Last January with Chelsea maybe an exception

 

[linderoth]

I think it was 3rd January last year when we got beat 4-1 at home by Brighton.
Demarai Gray scored in the 92nd minute

Haha

The perfect scenario in which to given Everton a penalty

 

[pfim]

The worst thing about these rules is that they actively encourage selling youth players. That’s completely against the spirit of the game, and will contribute to the game losing its soul even more than it already has, if that’s even possible.

It encourages developing them as well.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Does it? Newcastle, Manchester United, Arsenal are all unable to spend now because of it.

Brentford and Brighton seem to be doing just fine

them first three clubs have spent plenty mate

 

[matty1878]

Does it? Newcastle, Manchester United, Arsenal are all unable to spend now because of it.

Brentford and Brighton seem to be doing just fine

they’ve spent like no tomorrow and chelsea

 

[MikeH72]

It encourages developing them as well.

Yeah, to sell them on. Because “pure profit on the books” means more than the heart and soul of the game nowadays.

 

[canuckblue]

Isn’t UEFA , like FIFA and CAS, based in Switerland a non EU country ?

I think UEFA like FIFA is mindful of EU law but don’t think it comes under EU Jurisdiction as such but the ultimate legal jurisdiction all the non domestic associations fall under is Swiss Law.

Other than the over arching rules in football such as the laws of the game and regulations around player contracts domestic associations have their own laws/ rules that have to comply with the law of the land within the jurisdiction in which they operate.

Its frustrating as hell not to know what’s going on re matters such as Everton’s and yes Chelsea’s but the PL are dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t when putting information out there.

UEFA is the governing body for football in Europe, regardless if a member country is an EU member or not. So it and its member associations would have to abide by EU laws and any relevant court decisions, such as the ECJ's latest one regarding sanctions.

 

[PITA]

they’ve spent like no tomorrow and chelsea and the RS.

Fixed that for you. Apologies for adding a full stop at the end.

 

[canuckblue]

The inflation point is a very good point. It doesn't make much sense for thresholds to not be adjusted over time at least somewhat in line with inflation

I agree, but watch it happen now that we've been stitched up.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I cant think of any reason why any fan of a team outside the top 6 would support financial fair play in its current format.

The rules are designed to protect the position of the already established clubs and restrict the investment an owner can make to try to better a club

The best clubs can keep spending and pushing prices and wages up, without the fear of getting it wrong, because they will spend more on more replacements if necessary. But if other clubs try to do likewise to attempt to remain competitive, they will fall foul of the P & S rules - even if the owner is investing their own money into their own business, with no concern on the sustainability of that club.

If the rules are there to stop football clubs from getting into financial difficulties then they aren't fit for purpose.

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

they’ve spent like no tomorrow and chelsea

Yes, and the rules have stopped them doing so beyond their means. (We will see about Chelsea over the next year or two).

In reality the rules may have stopped moshiri wasting even more money and bankrupting us.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Yes, and the rules have stopped them doing so beyond their means. (We will see about Chelsea over the next year or two).

In reality the rules may have stopped moshiri wasting even more money and bankrupting us.

We wont know if this is the case until we see a summer where likes of Arsenal, United, Newcastle, Chelsea etc don't spend to strengthen their squads and start selling their better players.