Initial 10, then reduced to 6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Tony’s Carp]

He said it was harsh bit we suck it up and get on with it. If you've done wrong then take it and crack on.

He was a player and that is exactly what the players have to do. He's said we should appeal the sanction, but in the meantime the players shouldn't be distracted by it.

 

[ah11984]

Hope the club is looking at some of these articles being written about us at the moment, most of them full of inaccuracies and lies.
shouldn’t let some of these rags or pathetic excuses for journalists near Goodison.

 

[tommye]

Neville Southall and his 'suck it up' comment. THAT is why people should never have heroes.

A 'kin daft comment and he loses all respect from me.

The daft get.

I had a similar epiphany in the Ukraine thread, you massive nazi.

 

[Nymzee]

Our home form is absolutely abysmal. If this doesn’t change that nothing will.

 

[GP_Monty]

Grow up.
Someone has a different view and you start this nonsense.

Not allowed an alternative view on here, echo chamber full of people crying about corruption and lashing kopite shouts about.

 

[davek]

We

We have admitted we were guilty.

The club have done so and also highlighted why Everton have had to do what they did - as a result of the PL's own actions on Everton.

In any case, their whole process was flawed. What even constituted the upper limits was so ill-defined because of the Covid epidemic and their allowance stretched to an ill defined point.

Stop looking at this from a corrupt PL perspective and back this club.

 

[davek]

He was a player and that is exactly what the players have to do. He's said we should appeal the sanction, but in the meantime the players shouldn't be distracted by it.

We can appeal the sanction but we won't get anywhere I think he said.

His contribution was less than helpful for us.

I dont care what a keeper he was and how he;s a legend. He's a rent a gob and couldn't wait to roll out his ill-considered thoughts no matter the damage to us.

 

[davek]

Please explain how they took away our ability to stay within P&S rules.

If you need to ask that...

They shifted infrastructure spending into FFP calculations, they took our right to sponsorship from USM away, they were advising us to sell players in a hurry to be compliant and not getting value for them.

Any of those being in place for us keeps us onside of spending.

 

[gwladysnight]

The club have done so and also highlighted why Everton have had to do what they did - as a result of the PL's own actions on Everton.

In any case, their whole process was flawed. What even constituted the upper limits was so ill-defined because of the Covid epidemic and their allowance stretched to an ill defined point.

Stop looking at this from a corrupt PL perspective and back this club.

Why did the club have to keep spending when we knew were over the limit?

 

[davek]

Why did the club have to keep spending when we knew were over the limit?

Do me a favour.

You'll get f.a. response from me now. Fool.

 

[roydo]

If you need to ask that...

They shifted infrastructure spending into FFP calculations, they took our right to sponsorship from USM away, they were advising us to sell players in a hurry to be compliant and not getting value for them.

Any of those being in place for us keeps us onside of spending.

How did they take USM away? Pretty sure that was Vlad.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Hope the club is looking at some of these articles being written about us at the moment, most of them full of inaccuracies and lies.
shouldn’t let some of these rags or pathetic excuses for journalists near Goodison.

If only we had a Communication Manager

 

[Marius57]

We can appeal the sanction but we won't get anywhere I think he said.

His contribution was less than helpful for us.

I dont care what a keeper he was and how he;s a legend. He's a rent a gob and couldn't wait to roll out his ill-considered thoughts no matter the damage to us.

At least he isn’t crying that we are going to be relegated and he actually believes in us to get out of it……

 

[PeregrineT]

We have admitted to breaking P&S rules. We were bound to be punished.

If you look at the EFL then the starting point is 12 points. As a club we should be telling the appeal commission that we accept our guilt but that 10 points is harsh. We should explain that it was down to Moshiri and that he is leaving so the club and fans should not be treated too harshly and the points penalty should be reduced.

Not jump up and down and stamp our feet like a naughty toddler who has been told off for something they did.

We have admitted to breaking P&S Rules, which makes our appeal quite difficult. But we also admitted to it because we had to, we were partially screwed with their change to stadium financing rules. Our admission is in essence acknowledging its a rule now, but in reality we are being mostly punished for building a stadium and how Moshiri chose to do accounting for it.

Of the 120 million that the premier league charged us with spending over 3 years, at least 15 million from just that one year is NOT from players, trading, wages, or anything competitive, but purely interest charges on loans as we are financing a stadium build. We spent 50 million on stadium build costs that the league MADE us count towards our competitive budget because they deemed it "not probable" until approval was given. Then, when approval was given, they said you still cant exclude it THIS year.

Spending 120 million on players and wages would be one thing. But thats not what happened. They were just simply forced to admit that certain exclusions the league will no longer allow, though any rational person would probably say they should.

 

[banno]

Why did the club have to keep spending when we knew were over the limit?

Because we still needed players to stay in the Division. We had to sell our better players to try and beat the FFP.
Look at our net spend over the last 3 or 4 seasons compared with others and you will see that we tried our best (with the assistance of the PL) to be compliant.