2019/20 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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The money we paid for siggy was a disgrace. But he hasn't been a total flop. Last year he scored 13 goals but he didn't get involved in much. Now his goals have dried up his displays and not doing much stand out even more. He had been played out of position and struggled even more. I blame koeman/Walsh for paying do much for him and you can't blame him.fir coming on those wages. People like schneiderlin who has done nothing and shows no interest or fight when he gets a game are much more worst
 
edge said:
I know he isnt played in his preferred position and the players around him are not set up to play to get the best out of him but , that doesn't excuse whole segments
of games when he has either been left on the sidelines of the game or hasn't even touched the ball , you can be off form ,but put a shift in, plenty of players over the years havnt had the skills to compete but made up for it with effort.
I think most of us on here as old or as unfit as we are could get at least a touch of the ball in twenty minutes in a game ,even if it meant running around the centre circle only and launching yourself at anyone not in blue.
This fella needs launching out the club , I can except bad form I cant except lack of effort, not on his own either.
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Problem is, he has been tried everywhere. Even when he was the mythical number 10, his odd goal only served to mask his awful performances and plenty of people saw through that. He would regularly avoid responsibility, hiding between the lines, so people would then blame the supply from those behind him and movement of those in front.

For someone with his skill set, ie, shooting from distance, and supposedly linking play, he doesn't show initiative to drop deep and take control of the ball in areas he can hurt teams, he just waits. Most of his passes/touches are 1st time passes back to where they came from or the half hearted flick/back heel round the corner that fail way more often than they come off.

He doesn't dribble with the ball to draw players in, inviting pressure on himself to create space for others around him.

He's definitely not an option to pass to in a tight space, as he loses the ball a horrendous amount under even the slightest pressure.

He doesn't make clever runs off the ball.

He doesn't make intelligently timed late runs into the box to finish off moves. In fact, the majority of his admittedly spectacular goals have come from outside of the box and he has scored to my mind, 1 header (West Ham?).

He doesn't shoot nearly enough and when he does, the results range from the sublime to the ridiculous. It's bizarre, but when his efforts don't go in, they are usually insultingly tame or go nowhere the target. Sometimes, a narrowly missed shot can get the crowd up and put a team on the back foot.

His free kicks and corners are abysmal. He has yet to score a free kick for us in almost 3 years. Lucas Digne has scored several. Even Joe Williams scored 1 in the summer.

He has missed nearly as many penalties as he has scored, a disgusting waste of opportunity for a team that has struggled to score and create chances. This has the double effect of not only disheartening your own team and crowd, but also lifting the opposition.

He can't tackle to safe his life, and I've never seen a player arrive just late enough to not intercept a pass as many times as him, it makes me wonder if it's deliberate. I don't think you could try to be as close without success and be quite as bad. It may be his most consistent talent.

He started on the left or right and everyone said he'd be better in the 10 behind the attack. He got his opportunity there and proved to be almost as ineffective, until his biggest defenders started to suggest he should play deeper to be "more involved".

People slate Schneiderlin, and rightly so. I never understood why we wanted him, or why United wanted him before us, but when he signed, for those 1st 6 months, he proved me wrong, before falling off a cliff. But for all the criticism of his faults and his lack of heart, he virtually always shows for a pass or as an option, even to his own detriment.

I can say neither of those things about Sigurdsson, who I was equally baffled by our interest. He has never once proved me wrong, and even the goals he has scored, they only strengthened my opinion that all he is and has ever been is a YouTube compilation waiting to happen.

Bilyaletdinov was chased for doing pretty much the exact same thing, only he came from a different league, with a different language and culture, for 1/5th of the price, with far far FAR fewer chances to impress, and was certainly never pandered to by Moyes the way this fraud has been.

I have never wanted a player to leave so badly, and I genuinely can't wait to see the back of him.

Hopefully he can take Pickford with him.
 
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Connor said:
He'll start and Schneiderlin will be on the bench because we, literally, have nobody else
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davies, delph( who I dislike but needs must) to start.
have the 2 wasters on the bench and make them continually warm up down the sidelines but never bring them on.
 

Kever10 said:
Problem is, he has been tried everywhere. Even when he was the mythical number 10, his odd goal only served to mask his awful performances and plenty of people saw through that. He would regularly avoid responsibility, hiding between the lines, so people would then blame the supply from those behind him and movement of those in front.

For someone with his skill set, ie, shooting from distance, and supposedly linking play, he doesn't show initiative to drop deep and take control of the ball in areas he can hurt teams, he just waits. Most of his passes/touches are 1st time passes back to where they came from or the half hearted flick/back heel round the corner that fail way more often than they come off.

He doesn't dribble with the ball to draw players in, inviting pressure on himself to create space for others around him.

He's definitely not an option to pass to in a tight space, as he loses the ball a horrendous amount under even the slightest pressure.

He doesn't make clever runs off the ball.

He doesn't make intelligently timed late runs into the box to finish off moves. In fact, the majority of his admittedly spectacular goals have come from outside of the box and he has scored to my mind, 1 header (West Ham?).

He doesn't shoot nearly enough and when he does, the results range from the sublime to the ridiculous. It's bizarre, but when his efforts don't go in, they are usually insultingly tame or go nowhere the target. Sometimes, a narrowly missed shot can get the crowd up and put a team on the back foot.

His free kicks and corners are abysmal. He has yet to score a free kick for us in almost 3 years. Lucas Digne has scored several. Even Joe Williams scored 1 in the summer.

He has missed nearly as many penalties as he has scored, a disgusting waste of opportunity for a team that has struggled to score and create chances. This has the double effect of not only disheartening your own team and crowd, but also lifting the opposition.

He can't tackle to safe his life, and I've never seen a player arrive just late enough to not intercept a pass as many times as him, it makes me wonder if it's deliberate. I don't think you could try to be as close without success and be quite as bad. It may be his most consistent talent.

He started on the left or right and everyone said he'd be better in the 10 behind the attack. He got his opportunity there and proved to be almost as ineffective, until his biggest defenders started to suggest he should play deeper to be "more involved".

People slate Schneiderlin, and rightly so. I never understood why we wanted him, or why United wanted him before us, but when he signed, for those 1st 6 months, he proved me wrong, before falling off a cliff. But for all the criticism of his faults and his lack of heart, he virtually always shows for a pass or as an option, even to his own detriment.

I can say neither of those things about Sigurdsson, who I was equally baffled by our interest. He has never once proved me wrong, and even the goals he has scored, they only strengthened my opinion that all he is and has ever been is a YouTube compilation waiting to happen.

Bilyaletdinov was chased for doing pretty much the exact same thing, only he came from a different league, with a different language and culture, for 1/5th of the price, with far far FAR fewer chances to impress, and was certainly never pandered to by Moyes the way this fraud has been.

I have never wanted a player to leave so badly, and I genuinely can't wait to see the back of him.

Hopefully he can take Pickford with him.
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This 100%
 
Kever10 said:
Problem is, he has been tried everywhere. Even when he was the mythical number 10, his odd goal only served to mask his awful performances and plenty of people saw through that. He would regularly avoid responsibility, hiding between the lines, so people would then blame the supply from those behind him and movement of those in front.

For someone with his skill set, ie, shooting from distance, and supposedly linking play, he doesn't show initiative to drop deep and take control of the ball in areas he can hurt teams, he just waits. Most of his passes/touches are 1st time passes back to where they came from or the half hearted flick/back heel round the corner that fail way more often than they come off.

He doesn't dribble with the ball to draw players in, inviting pressure on himself to create space for others around him.

He's definitely not an option to pass to in a tight space, as he loses the ball a horrendous amount under even the slightest pressure.

He doesn't make clever runs off the ball.

He doesn't make intelligently timed late runs into the box to finish off moves. In fact, the majority of his admittedly spectacular goals have come from outside of the box and he has scored to my mind, 1 header (West Ham?).

He doesn't shoot nearly enough and when he does, the results range from the sublime to the ridiculous. It's bizarre, but when his efforts don't go in, they are usually insultingly tame or go nowhere the target. Sometimes, a narrowly missed shot can get the crowd up and put a team on the back foot.

His free kicks and corners are abysmal. He has yet to score a free kick for us in almost 3 years. Lucas Digne has scored several. Even Joe Williams scored 1 in the summer.

He has missed nearly as many penalties as he has scored, a disgusting waste of opportunity for a team that has struggled to score and create chances. This has the double effect of not only disheartening your own team and crowd, but also lifting the opposition.

He can't tackle to safe his life, and I've never seen a player arrive just late enough to not intercept a pass as many times as him, it makes me wonder if it's deliberate. I don't think you could try to be as close without success and be quite as bad. It may be his most consistent talent.

He started on the left or right and everyone said he'd be better in the 10 behind the attack. He got his opportunity there and proved to be almost as ineffective, until his biggest defenders started to suggest he should play deeper to be "more involved".

People slate Schneiderlin, and rightly so. I never understood why we wanted him, or why United wanted him before us, but when he signed, for those 1st 6 months, he proved me wrong, before falling off a cliff. But for all the criticism of his faults and his lack of heart, he virtually always shows for a pass or as an option, even to his own detriment.

I can say neither of those things about Sigurdsson, who I was equally baffled by our interest. He has never once proved me wrong, and even the goals he has scored, they only strengthened my opinion that all he is and has ever been is a YouTube compilation waiting to happen.

Bilyaletdinov was chased for doing pretty much the exact same thing, only he came from a different league, with a different language and culture, for 1/5th of the price, with far far FAR fewer chances to impress, and was certainly never pandered to by Moyes the way this fraud has been.

I have never wanted a player to leave so badly, and I genuinely can't wait to see the back of him.

Hopefully he can take Pickford with him.
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Brilliant post mate. I’ve been slated on here for calling this fraud out but this season I don’t even need to bother arguing it.

I’d actually prefer Bilyaletdinov based on the fact that he only has average pace whereas Siggurdson is the slowest player I have ever seen.

The way we’ve indulged this bloke has been ridiculous though. Imagine if we’d paid Kieran Dowell 100k a week for 5 years and played him every single game without question. People on here would be in uproar except Dowell would probably have done more in that period than Siggurdson has.
 

Saint Domingo said:
Brilliant post mate. I’ve been slated on here for calling this fraud out but this season I don’t even need to bother arguing it.

I’d actually prefer Bilyaletdinov based on the fact that he only has average pace whereas Siggurdson is the slowest player I have ever seen.

The way we’ve indulged this bloke has been ridiculous though. Imagine if we’d paid Kieran Dowell 100k a week for 5 years and played him every single game without question. People on here would be in uproar except Dowell would probably have done more in that period than Siggurdson has.
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rather give Dowell a run till the summer than watch him again
 
The last game at Goodison he struggled to control a simple pass near the dugout as he wrestled with the thing the opposition swept in took it off him and for a split second he stood absolutely bemused totally crestfallen.

His body is beginning to operate slower than his mind something anyone who has played the game will understand - done at this level
 

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