blueconverse
Player Valuation: £35m
Still his fault.
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You mean we’ve been crap and unable to attack since Gylfi signed? What a puzzling coincidence.
I mean he'd do well because he's the only one who ever seems to do that. Well, and Digne, once. But I get the point.
However, it's not at all pointless when responding to someone saying he should have more assists. I'm sorry, it just isn't. The evidence is there he could have quite a bit more.
I can take he needs to do more in his all round play - he does - and his delivery from set pieces etc needs to be far better and generally he needs to be more consistent. But in this particular instance the poster was suggesting he hasn't created chances and that's wrong. I listed the ones I could think of, off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more.
I don't think anyone is saying Sigurdsson is the sole reason we're crap - what I'm contesting at any rate is the excuses being made for him personally being poor. Similar to Lukaku ("at a big club with better players he'd shine" etc. etc.) he has excuses made for him instead of acknowledging the obvious - and that is he wouldn't get anywhere near a top six starting eleven.
Is he a good enough squad player for Everton right now? Well, sure. But that's not exactly praise is it - given we're awful and he cost £45m (and yes, that does matter).
That's my issue with the likes of Sigurdsson and, indeed, Lukaku - it's short sighted to think they're good enough for us challenging 8th-12th in the Premier League. My ambition, whilst not deluded, is still far greater than that.
blueconverse
Player Valuation: £35m
If you read this thread long enough a lot of "fans" are convinced the only reason we are crap is because of Siggurdson. If he left our Lionhearts would turn into world beaters according to some of the nutters in here.
I don't think so either, but the point was Lukaku an Fellaini took loads of stick because of their fees. Plenty would say they weren't worth it etc
And they were proven wrong when someone came and paid us more than we did for them.
Not going to happen with Gylfi.
He simply was terribly overpriced and forces us to play a style to get the best out of him which many of us believe is to the overall detriment of the team.
If we spent the same amount of money on a striker two years ago and he provided the same amount of goals as Gylfi has now people wouldn't be impressed and consider him value for money as a striker.
Since he is supposed to be a midfielder it isn't fair to judge him on his goal output alone so then we look at the amount of assists he has and you can't say those are impressive figures for a 45 million midfielder either.
He doesn't bring the best out of other players when he's on form because he's a finisher and not a playmaker. He's not a midfielder but he's not a striker either.
Again, not the point.
To "Rom never lived up to his fee either until it was time to sell."
I simply added, + Fellaini.
Fellaini was slated because of his fee. As was Lukaku. Over scrutinised, watched with a pre-determined agenda.
Evertonians fester, absolutely fester on price tags. Look at your post here. "those are impressive figures for a 45 million midfielder either". Case in point.
Whether proven right or wrong by eventual resale is largely irrelevant.
During their time at Everton, price tags are a massive noose around the neck of players.
Imagine if Bernard cost £45m?
The difference in attitude towards him would be astonishing.
They'll both be earning a very similar salary - if anything, Bernard will be earning more.
Funny old game, football.
Little bit different. Bernard came from the Ukrainian league, hadn’t played since March and has never played in such a hectic winter schedule before whilst also not being able to speak English in his first year living in England.
davids
Player Valuation: £60m
It's the modern fall back position for most supporters (I include myself) Things aren't going well and the first thought is "we paid how much for him/them? and he/they don't look bothered" At least to our credit we get after the kids who cost nothing or very little too.
Such a luxury of patience wasn't afforded to Fellaini. He was 20, signed from Belgian...
It's all price tag, fans fester on it.
Did Fellaini get a ton of flack in his first 6 months? (Genuinely can’t remember)
Of course he did, he cost a lot and looked awkward.
He was absolutely slaughtered on here.
davids
Player Valuation: £60m
I remember he'd had Slippery in his pocket in a European game at the pit,so it was expected he'd run the show in every game he played in,the fact it was a new country,new team mates mattered little.
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