Give the young lads a run?

[Daz1878]

Davey will def give the young lads a run — once they're all 10-15 years older.

 

[Furey1878]

Out of all our centre mids you think the one that gets in the Newcastle side is Gana?????

The one who has been consistently very good at what he does for many, many years and earned a move to PSG as a result?

If you want to argue his best days are behind him and you'd rather see James Garner in that hypothetical midfield then sound, but it's not laughable to suggest Gueye is still good.

 

[Furey1878]

Gueye instead of Garner?

He's still the first name in the midfield for me. Though Garner has came on leaps and bounds, and hopefully we see Gueye replaced next season.

 

[MACCA75]

I don't think they're an elite side by any means, but think a combined XI would like like this:

Pickford
Livramento
Burn
Branthwaite
Hall

Tonali
Gueye
Guimares

Ndiaye
Woltemade / Wissa
Barnes

Dan Burn is not their best central defender. Gana in his prime maybe, definitely not now.

 

[Furey1878]

Dan Burn is not their best central defender. Gana in his prime maybe, definitely not now.

I still think Gana is good at what he does.

I don't know about other Newcastle CB, but I'd defo take Burn over Tarkowski and Keane. It's hard to say with O'Brien because we just haven't seen him enough in his actual position, though what we have seen has been good.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

The one who has been consistently very good at what he does for many, many years and earned a move to PSG as a result?

If you want to argue his best days are behind him and you'd rather see James Garner in that hypothetical midfield then sound, but it's not laughable to suggest Gueye is still good.

It is. I would play Garner, KDH and even Tim ahead of based on recent form.

 

[Furey1878]

It is. I would play Garner, KDH and even Tim ahead of based on recent form.

I can't argue with Garner or KDH on recent form but Tim is a bit mad, mate. He was on the pitch for like 15 mins against Brighton and nearly cost us the game twice, Tim has a lot of good attributes but his discipline and decision making are shocking.

Gueye won manager's player and players' player of the season for us last season, just won AFCON with Senegal, even at his ripe old age he'd still be an asset to any team outside of the Champions League places. I think his minutes need to be managed better than they currently are, mind.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

I can't argue with Garner or KDH on recent form but Tim is a bit mad, mate. He was on the pitch for like 15 mins against Brighton and nearly cost us the game twice, Tim has a lot of good attributes but his discipline and decision making are shocking.

Gueye won manager's player and players' player of the season for us last season, just won AFCON with Senegal, even at his ripe old age he'd still be an asset to any team outside of the Champions League places. I think his minutes need to be managed better than they currently are, mind.

He's much better than Gana now.

 

[Swartzy]

Gueye instead of Garner?

Should be reported for slander, and subsequently banned until Garner recieves a heartfelt apology..

 

[Neiler]

Everyone wants to play young players until they play bad, lets be honest.

Sign them to for that matter, until it takes them a while to earn game time - Aznou and Dibling.

People like the theory far more then the practice.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

We rearely play kids in early rounds of te cups, no chance Dm does so in the prem

 

[Raino85]

I don't know if we can afford said bulking.

Also their run was incredibly lucky in that they faced exactly 1 good team and it was in the final which they shithoused their way to winning honestly. I don't think this generational luck is something Everton to happen, but hope/pray it is if we get there

We should be considered among the favourites if we get there though, that's definitely true, and I'd love to see us win a pot in my lifetime, so hope we get there and we shithouse our way to a title too, or win it however we can really.

For the first 3-4 games for sure, if/when we reach any more serious games it's the same experienced team as before - in the Conference winning season he almost didn't rotate players.

He won the conference league and battled relegation at the same time, I don't want people to keep glossing over it as if it's nothing - they were around us for nearly the entire year and we were actual dogwater. I don't want a repeat of that personally - more games and all that but Moyes sticks to 1 team for 95% of games, which he no doubt will again. It's the same reason we're not seeing the young players now, for what it's worth.

You DONT want to win the conference league?

 

[Raino85]

I don't know if we can afford said bulking.

Also their run was incredibly lucky in that they faced exactly 1 good team and it was in the final which they shithoused their way to winning honestly. I don't think this generational luck is something Everton to happen, but hope/pray it is if we get there

We should be considered among the favourites if we get there though, that's definitely true, and I'd love to see us win a pot in my lifetime, so hope we get there and we shithouse our way to a title too, or win it however we can really.

For the first 3-4 games for sure, if/when we reach any more serious games it's the same experienced team as before - in the Conference winning season he almost didn't rotate players.

He won the conference league and battled relegation at the same time, I don't want people to keep glossing over it as if it's nothing - they were around us for nearly the entire year and we were actual dogwater. I don't want a repeat of that personally - more games and all that but Moyes sticks to 1 team for 95% of games, which he no doubt will again. It's the same reason we're not seeing the young players now, for what it's worth.

FWIW what young players are we not seeing, i refer to a post earlier on

Last weekend 10 Under 20 year olds appeared in the PL out of 302 players used in total

Armstrong (Everton) 80 mins
Dibling (Everton) 10 mins
Byfield (Spurs) 1 min
Kostoulus (Brighton) 20 mins
Mane (Wolves) 90 mins
Lima (Wolves) 1 min
Hato (Chelsea) 45 mins
Kroupi (Bournemouth) 68 mins
Gray (Spurs) 90 mins
Rayan (Bournemouth) 22 mins

3.31& of players playing in the PL last weekend were teenagers (2 of them playing for us by the way.
If you put it down to minutes earned, its only 2.15% of minutes available (excluding stoppage time) were given to teenagers

In such a physical league that is based on athleticism and set pieces, it isn't a place to just throw 4 19 year olds straight into the team. Its £3m a place and the coaches have reputations to protect as they all know they are roughly in there jobs for 18 months -3 years if lucky

Also why should they be given a chance over someone that might possibly work harder than them in training purely based on the year they were born, part of learning at that age is working for something showing patience and realizing everything doesn't just get given to you.

 

[Raino85]

Everyone wants to play young players until they play bad, lets be honest.

Sign them to for that matter.

People like the theory far more then the practice.

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[DualityNSNO]

You DONT want to win the conference league?

Where did you read that, given that I specifically said I'd love to see us win it? I'm worried the form in the league will suffer and we'll need to spend even more money (which we won't) and be weaker overall if we don't actually win the pot, but it'd be a fantastic achievement.

FWIW what young players are we not seeing, i refer to a post earlier on

Aznou LB/LW, Dibling RW, Armstrong in CM, I don't care one iota about other teams as they usually actually play their young players more than us overall, it's just fun to point out when they do, like now, as "last weekend" was great that we did that, the previous ~20 we didn't.

Moyes is still leading the board for least gametime given to teenagers all time and that won't change, but what's Mykolenko offering currently? Or why start a young player just to say "I told you so" and bench him, as is Armstrong's case, and put him way out of position so he offers nothing? Gueye straight back in instead of Rohl/Armstrong is also bizarre. But that's Moyes for you.