2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Jokerdan]

Was reading something the other day on Howard and how the 80s side came together.

It got me weirdly wondering just how much a student of the game Lampard is, he's often said about the type of footy we as fans want to see and which we get behind the most - as being more important than what he personally prefers wants to play even.

Got me wondering if he studied the sides of the 80s a little.

The way he's targeting players with that attitude, work ethic, bringing in young hungry players mixed with older model pros - it's very reminiscent for me of what Howard (himself a young manager pretty much unproven but with a great career as a midfielder behind him) did all the way back then.

Hit.Nail.Head.

 

[allen]

I think Moyes did tbf, but he also weirdly bought too much into the plucky little Everton thing too much which badly undermined belief away from home v good sides.

Don't think Lampard is making that mistake

Moyes, too, was more stick than carrot.

Lampard is the opposite - which is the more difficult route, but the right one in this era.

Essentially it’s about convincing players to engage with the philosophy, rather than demanding they do so.

 

[Lanolin]

Nobody sets themselves up for a fall quite like our fans.

There are positive signs, things have definitely been worse, but we have a long, long way to go. Let’s just take it one step at a time.

 

[Drico]

Martinez did in fairness. He had many faults as a manager but he got the club.

Yes, Roberto really bought in. I was a massive critic of him in seasons two and three, but he understood the unique position of Everton from day one. He gave us one wonderful whirlwind season - the best I have seen since Howard Kendall's championship heyday. Only Joe Royle's first season could compare, in the interim, for different reasons. And Roberto really bought in. I like him as a man. His optimism and sunny disposition drives me nuts, but he is very likeable.

 

[Dame Judi Dench]

Frank is building something special here

@Nymzee

This is just one of the many comments I was talking about. I actually can’t tell if they’re serious or not.

I personally think we’ve got kopites here pretending to be blues and posting that kind of stuff to make us look like idiots.

 

[matty1878]

Oh you are being serious

lad jib it

 

[matty1878]

@Nymzee

This is just one of the many comments I was talking about. I actually can’t tell if they’re serious or not.

I personally think we’ve got kopites here pretending to be blues and posting that kind of stuff to make us look like idiots.

or we have some of our own fans wanting us to fail? for they’re own warped reasons

crack on muppets

 

[Toff33Blues99]

lad jib it

Be quiet

 

[matty1878]

Be quiet

stop cryin we will score goals

 

[bluestevon]

I'm hopeful that Lampard's ego will be the difference here. Lampard has a sense of confidence in himself that comes from playing at the level he did. Basically, he fancies himself. Brand Moyes was always based on more humble attributes, sheer hard work, fastidious dedication, and a desire to make something of himself. Lampard has already made something of himself. He thinks he's worth it. This is a good thing if he surrounds himself with expert coaches and can have his vision funded from on-high. I think he has both of those ingredients, so he has a real chance in those big games. He sees that as his stage - the big games against the big teams and coaches. Whether he has the basics to back up all of this is the question, but he has no inferiority complex and it's about time we shook ours off too.

Lampard for me is a little different to the typical top player going into management - a lot of the very best rude their talent and yeah work hard but it's the talent that seperated them from the 'good'. With Lampard he knows the importance of getting every last bit out of what talent you have - and I think as a manager he gets that across to the players he's working with.

It's why the recruitment has been spot on, he's brought in players who want to put in the hard yards and it's showing they've bought into it completely.

Onana yesterday and the reaction of players getting him to suck it up was glorious to see in an Everton side. More glorious was that the young lad did it too. That's one serious team spirit and example set and shown by a 20yo lad

 

[Barnfred 55]

There is a togetherness about this squad that I haven't seen at the club for a long long time. Tremendous spirit and never say die attitude. It was so evident in the collective reaction of the players at the final whistle. It wasn't relief or satisfaction. It was determination bordering on aggression. That can only come from one person. The manager.

Frank is still a young inexperienced manager who is still learning the game. He seems very intelligent and I believe he will get better as he learns from his mistakes. He has every single player fighting for him and I think he knows that's what the vast majority of Evertonians want most. I predict teams will not enjoy coming to Goodison this season

 

[Toff33Blues99]

stop cryin we will score goals

No crying, just a dose of reality

 

[Drico]

Lampard for me is a little different to the typical top player going into management - a lot of the very best rude their talent and yeah work hard but it's the talent that seperated them from the 'good'. With Lampard he knows the importance of getting every last bit out of what talent you have - and I think as a manager he gets that across to the players he's working with.

It's why the recruitment has been spot on, he's brought in players who want to put in the hard yards and it's showing they've bought into it completely.

Onana yesterday and the reaction of players getting him to suck it up was glorious to see in an Everton side. More glorious was that the young lad did it too. That's one serious team spirit and example set and shown by a 20yo lad

Yes, it's great to see. I love quality technical football as much as the next man (hence the joy, albeit brief, of James Rodriguez wearing the royal blue), but the fundamentals for me as a fan of any football team, whether that is Everton or my national team, is effort, fight, wit, intelligence, steel, and fury. Think of the many superb sides over recent years who, perhaps, had their own natural limitations but who soared past them because of these characteristics: Croatia at the last World Cup, Simeone's Atletico Madrid, Leicester's title winners...

Yes, they all had quality - but they had blood and thunder too. This is what I want - nay, demand - as an Everton fan. No fear, no inferiority complex, no slackers.

 

[bluestevon]

Nobody sets themselves up for a fall quite like our fans.

There are positive signs, things have definitely been worse, but we have a long, long way to go. Let’s just take it one step at a time.

That's the thing though mate, I'm making a comparison to what Howard did, because I remember back then, it ain't gonna happen overnight, it's a long term rebuild, but if we give Lampard that time, I feel like he knows what he's doing and building towards

 

[Drico]

Nobody sets themselves up for a fall quite like our fans.

There are positive signs, things have definitely been worse, but we have a long, long way to go. Let’s just take it one step at a time.

This is precisely my position, too.

We haven't won a game yet - but we're now on the emotional rollercoaster. You can sense it. This is a dangerous moment for Frank. Dashed expectations can kill a manager.

A bad defeat at Arsenal next week, and some poor results against United and West Ham and Frank will be plunged into the relegation zone. The task remains what it was: get to the World Cup in a respectable position where, even if we are in trouble, we are most certainly not cut adrift.