2021/22 Frank Lampard

[Toffeepot]

We've been calling for a manager to ruffle a few feathers for years after numerous pushovers and uninterested appointments.

Fans cant slate the club over jobs for the boys, keeping on the same unqualified fitness/conditioning department and recruitment team but then moan when we got a manager in who was throwing them all under the bus and booting key personnel out the door.

We get the club we deserve.

Im not saying Benitez was perfect or that he had done a good job but I do believe its no coincidence that after a good start to the season the wheels came off as soon as he called into question the likes of Brands / Donachie.

The clubs a holiday camp and if you dont tow the party line you're out.

The wheels came off when he fell out with players and they stopped playing for him

 

[4737carlin]

Yet it could be way way worse.
Them 2 wins agst Newcastle & Man utd wouldnt happen under Benitez.
We would be sunk by now

You say this but we beat Arsenal last minute under Benitez, however both United and Newcastle won with a crowd totally onside with the players, which I'm confident we will be for every home game now.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Should be ashamed of yourself dad.

It’s incredible you of all people calling out crassness and shame considering your posting history

 

[4737carlin]

Should have kept Benitez and saved millions but the club pandered to the players downing tools and rabid fans yet again.

Even if we had gone down he would have brought us back up most likely. Its uncertain if Lampard would do that going off his Derby stint.

If we drop it has to be Rooney, Frank right now is showing us nothing.

 

[blue to the bone]

Absolutely astounding that the benitez cult continue to defend him . What a horrible bunch they are. Allegiance to a rancid kopite . Shame on them

 

[BlueStevie35]

If we drop it has to be Rooney, Frank right now is showing us nothing.

Why? I’d rather Rooney stay where he is and try and get Derby back up, which he’ll have a great chance to do

 

[ForeverBlue92]

If we drop it has to be Rooney, Frank right now is showing us nothing.

I'm not against Lampard tbh but if we do go down I would be using my super agent links if I was Moshiri to bring in a manager of european pedigree.

Leeds - went up with Biesla
Wolves - went up with Nuno
Newcastle - went up with Benitez
Fulham - coming up with Silva

I would be looking at out of work managers who are a cut above that division the likes of Fonesca or Nuno.

2 year contract - let them get us up and go from there the following summer.

 

[Daytripper]

Absolutely astounding that the benitez cult continue to defend him . What a horrible bunch they are. Allegiance to a rancid kopite . Shame on them

It winds people up. Easy attention.

 

[BlueToff]

We've been calling for a manager to ruffle a few feathers for years after numerous pushovers and uninterested appointments.

Fans cant slate the club over jobs for the boys, keeping on the same unqualified fitness/conditioning department and recruitment team but then moan when we got a manager in who was throwing them all under the bus and booting key personnel out the door.

We get the club we deserve.

Im not saying Benitez was perfect or that he had done a good job but I do believe its no coincidence that after a good start to the season the wheels came off as soon as he called into question the likes of Brands / Donachie.

The clubs a holiday camp and if you dont tow the party line you're out.

I wasn't. I just wanted a good manager. Ancelotti was a good manager but not the exact type that was probably needed to really really push us on long term but bloody hell look where he had this squad.

So no, I didn't want Benitez. or that type of divisive manager. We could have replaced Ancelotti with Lampard and we'd have been far better off because at least it would have been a proper plan not - let's just go from one extreme to the other.

He got rid of Donachie because Donachie didn't agree with him on DCL being pushed back into training in September.

Based on what's happened with DCL since, I'd say we know who was right.

 

[blulouie]

You say this but we beat Arsenal last minute under Benitez, however both United and Newcastle won with a crowd totally onside with the players, which I'm confident we will be for every home game now.

Fair point

But the point stands Benitez wasnt winning another game with us.

 

[4737carlin]

Why? I’d rather Rooney stay where he is and try and get Derby back up, which he’ll have a great chance to do

Yeah but it what's best for Everton, Rooney did a good job in that division, he might not want it though

 

[BlueToff]

The wheels came off when he fell out with players and they stopped playing for him

Well they came off when he was unable to adapt his outdated tactics

 

[Toffeepot]

Absolutely astounding that the benitez cult continue to defend him . What a horrible bunch they are. Allegiance to a rancid kopite . Shame on them

I just think it's really strange. Forget the Kopite thing, the fact he was terrible for way more than just the way the team played. Everything. It's like facts don't exist for them or something.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I wasn't. I just wanted a good manager. Ancelotti was a good manager but not the exact type that was probably needed to really really push us on long term but bloody hell look where he had this squad.

So no, I didn't want Benitez. or that type of divisive manager. We could have replaced Ancelotti with Lampard and we'd have been far better off because at least it would have been a proper plan not - let's just go from one extreme to the other.

He got rid of Donachie because Donachie didn't agree with him on DCL being pushed back into training in September.

Based on what's happened with DCL since, I'd say we know who was right.

There is zero evidence of that though.

The problem with EFC social media is many statements get thrown out over who signed what player, who fell out with who, who is really injured or who's just throwing a sickie etc.

Its dangerous because it leads to two divided camps believing statements that neither have proof of.

Everton social media is a reflection on modern day politics in many ways.

Always two sides to every story mucker.

 

[Toffeepot]

Yeah but it what's best for Everton, Rooney did a good job in that division, he might not want it though

was it that good? I know he battled after the points deduction but it was a 12point deduction and they are 10points from safety at the moment