Fellaini Has A Big Decision To Make

[Goat]

I just don't get the Fellaini hype. I think for alot of the time he is a passenger. He is a highlights played and vastly overrated. We won't miss him if he goes (or as I hope, when), trust me. Get in a ball playing midfielder - a Mouthino/Arteta type - we'll be a far better team.

Wow.

Just wow.

 

[chrissyjack]

I just don't get the Fellaini hype. I think for alot of the time he is a passenger. He is a highlights played and vastly overrated. We won't miss him if he goes (or as I hope, when), trust me. Get in a ball playing midfielder - a Mouthino/Arteta type - we'll be a far better team.

What :blink:

 

[fozzy]

I just don't get the Fellaini hype. I think for alot of the time he is a passenger. He is a highlights played and vastly overrated. We won't miss him if he goes (or as I hope, when), trust me. Get in a ball playing midfielder - a Mouthino/Arteta type - we'll be a far better team.

you do like his hair though dont you? please god he must like his hair!!

 

[Tubey]

I just don't get the Fellaini hype. I think for alot of the time he is a passenger. He is a highlights played and vastly overrated. We won't miss him if he goes (or as I hope, when), trust me. Get in a ball playing midfielder - a Mouthino/Arteta type - we'll be a far better team.

I was convinced this was popcorn, but without the prerequisite warning in "the thread" then I'm concerned that this is your actual opinion.

In which case, you're a mentalist lad

 

[chicoazul]

RBJ has got you all on ignore = he win.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

RBJ has got you all on ignore = he win.

All he needs to do is quote himself and back his own opinion up to confirm this.

 

[Royal Blue Jersey]

I was convinced this was popcorn, but without the prerequisite warning in "the thread" then I'm concerned that this is your actual opinion.

In which case, you're a mentalist lad

No, it's my honest opinion

Good thing is, unlike when rumours swirled around Lescott, Pienaar and Arteta I can't lose with this one. The daily grind that is the Fellaini speculation that must be killing all of you is passing me by like a fluffy cloud. I am serene. I am convinced we will replace him with someone better.

 

[Blues Harp]

No, it's my honest opinion

Good thing is, unlike when rumours swirled around Lescott, Pienaar and Arteta I can't lose with this one. The daily grind that is the Fellaini speculation that must be killing all of you is passing me by like a fluffy cloud. I am serene. I am convinced we will replace him with someone better.

Errrr - like Who ??? who would you buy to replace him ??

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Happy birthday Marouane

 

[steken1]

I stand to be corrected, but I believe the Companies House records show the repayment of the small loans that we take out each summer to cover cash flow. We then do the same loan for another year before it is paid back. We still had to pay the overdraft back though when the bank demanded that we do so, an overdraft that was used to cover circa 5million pound losses over a number of years.

Surely you agree with this, otherwise there would be no explanation as to where all the Arteta and Bellefield money went, especially whilst you are also arguing that our debt has remained stagnant as you put it?

We really aren't in that bad of a position. Granted, we have to watch our expenditure, but we can be ambitious at the same time. For example, the club wouldn't (couldn't???) have racked up losses of 5million pound per year if they didn't have the foresight to apply for a 30million bank overdraft, and I doubt the bank would grant a 30million pound overdraft that is repayable on demand unless they had the confidence in Everton being able to do just that (pay it back on demand).

You suggested yourself that we had paid back a massive tranche of money over twelve months. You also suggested we've never been really close to administration.

If the banks were confident enough to give us a 30m overdraft what made them suddenly lose confidence and insist we pay back a massive amount in such a short space?

The loans at companies house were all long term debt in the main. It was a res-structuring of our finances. We brought in more than we spent again this summer, as we've done for the past four or five years. We haven't got a carat mate. The manager said as much last week. He said he'd like to get players in but the finances aren't there.

You can kid yourself as much as you like. EFC are skint and probably will be for a long time coming.

 

[Essex Blue]

You suggested yourself that we had paid back a massive tranche of money over twelve months. You also suggested we've never been really close to administration.

If the banks were confident enough to give us a 30m overdraft what made them suddenly lose confidence and insist we pay back a massive amount in such a short space?

The loans at companies house were all long term debt in the main. It was a res-structuring of our finances. We brought in more than we spent again this summer, as we've done for the past four or five years. We haven't got a carat mate. The manager said as much last week. He said he'd like to get players in but the finances aren't there.

You can kid yourself as much as you like. EFC are skint and probably will be for a long time coming.

The bank suddenly losing confidence would have been for two reasons. Firstly, it probably had something to do with the global banking crisis. Secondly, it would have become apparent what the overdraft was being used for (to cover losses), this couldn’t be allowed to continue indefinitely, and therefore they demanded their money back.

If your account was accurate then we either have an untouched 30million pound overdraft just sitting there, or an outstanding overdraft that could be demanded back at any time. Neither such scenario is very likely. It would also mean that our long-term debt would have been briefly reduced (it wasn’t) and that we immediately took out a similar loan as soon as it was paid back. This isn’t the case for the long-term debt, but it is the case for the short-term 12 month loans from Rob Earle, or his BVI registered company.

I’m not the one kidding myself mate, a whole load of additional revenue is on its way, and unless the club finds a way of spending it we will end up making a profit. Our assets far outweigh our liabilities, and Moyes made those comments immediately before taking his entire backroom staff on a jolly scouting trip in Norway.

 

[steken1]

The bank suddenly losing confidence would have been for two reasons. Firstly, it probably had something to do with the global banking crisis. Secondly, it would have become apparent what the overdraft was being used for (to cover losses), this couldn’t be allowed to continue indefinitely, and therefore they demanded their money back.

If your account was accurate then we either have an untouched 30million pound overdraft just sitting there, or an outstanding overdraft that could be demanded back at any time. Neither such scenario is very likely. It would also mean that our long-term debt would have been briefly reduced (it wasn’t) and that we immediately took out a similar loan as soon as it was paid back. This isn’t the case for the long-term debt, but it is the case for the short-term 12 month loans from Rob Earle, or his BVI registered company.

I’m not the one kidding myself mate, a whole load of additional revenue is on its way, and unless the club finds a way of spending it we will end up making a profit. Our assets far outweigh our liabilities, and Moyes made those comments immediately before taking his entire backroom staff on a jolly scouting trip in Norway.

No mate it would mean that the overdraft had been reduced and long term debt increased to pay the overdraft, I.e. debt remains stagnant(the clubs word not mine!)

You seem to have completely misunderstood what I've been posting or your in complete denial that the club LOSES £15m a season in real terms and sells assets to make this up. When we get the extra money we may be able to stop selling assets and exist on an even keel.

I'll sum up why evidence doesn't back up the things your saying.

REVENUES HAVE SKYROCKETED THROUGH THE PL YEARS. THE ONLY THING THATS KEPT PACE WITH THEM IS EVERTONS DEBT AND PLAYER WAGES. WHAT WILL CHANGE?

 

[dixie7]

ahh yes the famous 'such and such has been after him'

if you can prove that Chelsea have stated interest or made a bid that would be great.

Thanks

exactly.

people keep on saying chelsea have been interested in him for ages, if thats true ancelotti AVB di matteo and now benitez must all be interested in him

Ancelotti was linked with him when he was chelsea manager and thats it
and lets not go on as if abrmovich will buy him, he wont.

Im amazed fellainis let it come to this practially every week now saying he wants to leave for CL football, we could have the scenario where fellaini wants to leave but none of europes elite want him, as if barca or real will make him their "big money signing" shirt sales going through the roof etc. fellaini needs a dose of reality, I think the motd montages are getting to his head

 

[toffeejack]

exactly.

people keep on saying chelsea have been interested in him for ages, if thats true ancelotti AVB di matteo and now benitez must all be interested in him

Ancelotti was linked with him when he was chelsea manager and thats it
and lets not go on as if abrmovich will buy him, he wont.

Im amazed fellainis let it come to this practially every week now saying he wants to leave for CL football, we could have the scenario where fellaini wants to leave but none of europes elite want him, as if barca or real will make him their "big money signing" shirt sales going through the roof etc. fellaini needs a dose of reality, I think the motd montages are getting to his head

abrahmovic likes to buy players he likes not necessarily what the manager likes though so this may not be true

 

[MartSlinger]

Manager doesnt decide who comes in at Chelsea.