GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
We don't know how much he has.
By all accounts his residence is Monaco to avoid tax.
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By all accounts his residence is Monaco to avoid tax.
I think one of the problems with the Moshiri regime so far is the whole "Nothing Will Be The Same" mantra combined with "Watch This Space" tweets. This led to a belief by a lot of fans that we really were entering a new era and that a glorious dawn was here. I'd include myself in that. Football is a results business and that is true for areas such as transfer windows as much as what goes on in the games. We've been underwhelming in both areas in my opinion. The one thing where Moshiri got what/who he wanted was in the choice of manager and here as well I feel completely underwhelmed. I just hope January is not a repeat of the summer, with over-optimistic posts about who we will be signing and how nothing really will be the same.
Frank Gallagher
Player Valuation: £50m
ive said this day one, as many on here have read numerous times. the gibson new contract was totally unbelievable. esp as it was his first move. shocking!
we needed a ruthless, cut throat billionaire , someone who was going to walk in saying, 'i havent just spent £80m buying this place to have it crumble around me, things are REALLY going to change' someone who would have got rid of the dead wood and replaced the board, and got his hands on the steering wheel, himself, and got us going in the right direction.
instead we seem to have got a puppet, who bill is in control of. its sooo utterly frustrating.
untill bill and the entire board are gone, Everton will remain exactly the same.
for those hoping to see us tie up 4 or 5 deals for top players in january are very much mistaken. this board is not versed in doing much transfer business whatsoever, let alone 4 or 5 big deals in one month! you gotta be kidding me right???
we will get one in, perhaps 2 tops. and it will take the entire month to get anyone thro the door.
Previous manager is given three years, runs squad into the ground by buying in dross, failing to replace players reaching the end of their careers and generally lowering the profile of the club.... New manager is judged a failure for not turning it all around in 15 games.
What kind of impatient, entitled fanbase behaves this way? I'll take your point re the league table being more concrete than Martinez-style happy-clappy PR-talk, but why are you judging Koeman after 15 games?
Koeman is still working with what is, bar FOUR players, the squad he inherited from Martinez. The four he signed are all upgrades in their respective positions. The manager is making progress and yes, I would love to see more progress too - but I'm not foolish and petulant enough to demand a new manager after FIFTEEN games just because we aren't fifth in a league that includes several of the planet's richest clubs.
Moshiri needs time. Koeman needs time. You were all happy to give Martinez two seasons (some people were happy giving him three!) but you expect the fallout of the Martinez era to be tidied away and cured completely in FIFTEEN games? I'll be polite and simply say you, and others like you, are being unrealistic.
Gibbo properly proved me wrong for about a season or so when we signed him, a short lived partnership with him and felli was ace, but the lads clearly done, at least at this level, the whole thing was just really weird, he doesn't even add numbers he's such a crock
They aren't playing worse football. That's where your argument falters.
Where is the evidence to suggest that it is a realistic expectation that three seasons of chronic mismanagement can be undone in 15 games? Where is the evidence to suggest that four signings can possibly be enough to replace both the dross and the older players that Martinez failed to deal with?
Expecting a magical cure after 15 games is the very epitome of "entitled".
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
I would agree with you but if he gets a world-class new stadium for us over the line history will judge him well
orly
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Again, I wasn't. I don't think anyone would suggest I gave Martinez any real time at all, I saw him as the complete antithesis of what Everton should be appointing, Bill going for the cheapo option.
You've created yourself a strawman here. You're essentially ranting a bit mentally at yourself, and changing the argument as you go along.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
After previously not being too knee jerk about the summer transfer window, I now do feel that the evidence is there for all to see that we did not do what was necessary to ensure that we could realistically challenge for a top 6 finish which should have been achievable this season.
However, when you say get rid of the dead wood, what did you expect him to do? People on here seem to just focus on the starting 11, and forget that you actually need a squad over the course of the season. How could he have come in and in one transfer window, just get rid of a lot of our players and bring in enough suitable replacements?
That would have required us to spend way over £100m and the fact we came 11th would have meant the quality of players would barely have been better than what we've already got.
Assuming the dead wood are the older players, plus any that are unpopular on here, after already getting rid of Howard, Osman, Pienaar, Hibbert, we'd have got rid of over 10 players..
Barry
Jagielka
Baines
Gibson
Niasse
Kone
McGeady
That's 11, then people on here presumably wanted rid of..
McCarthy
Oviedo
Mirallas
Robles
Cleverley
So around 15/16 players. Who out of them did you want rid of and realistically how many did you think we could have replaced in one window and have improved the squad given we came 11th?
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Rook
Player Valuation: £80m
I don't think he's being cheap. Hell we were all ready to spunk 30M on gah! Sissoko. Also I like the fact that he stays in the backround and lets the footie guys do their thing. Plus we seemed really quality in August/Sept so maybe we kind of figured we didn't have to panic buy. It might be good in the long term that we for the most part sit the summer transfer window out. There was new TV money being thrown around all over the place for players who didn't deserve that price tag. Also yes it was a bad signing but the Gibson contract isn't going to put us in financial ruin. Its not going to be like that next year as there will be more than a few sides who are maxed out and sides above us cleaning house. Also hell does anyone in their right mind think we'd be so much better off with Witsel and/or Sissoko?
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