Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

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    Votes: 105 7.7%
  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,250 92.3%

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Simon is missing the whole point that these big 6 don’t want relegation from this new league. This is the whole point in why they want to create it. They want their money secure.

I think he is putting out the sensible counter argument - not so much agreeing with it just where they stand. You negotiate from we'll do this which is completely unreasonable and then end up after negotiations with something not quite as damaging but way more has been conceded by the authorities than previously thought possible.

For a lot of yesterday's program he was saying that you either have salary caps or they have to push for control over incomes. Subscription based football basically so the big clubs take the lions share I'd imagine is the end goal here.
 
Chelsea apparently getting cold feet already'Its not what we signed up for' ' Announcement was not cleared by the 12 .' This could all be a flash in the pan, dead by July.
Of course it will...disappointingly there will be no consequences for those 6clubs. For me backtracking at this stage is not enough. There has to be a penalty so that next time clubs do things properly through the correct channels. Ideally they should be suspended of any European competition next year at the very least and make to apologise profusely to ALL football fans.
 
Chelsea apparently getting cold feet already'Its not what we signed up for' ' Announcement was not cleared by the 12 .' This could all be a flash in the pan, dead by July.
Still should get points deductions and banned from Europe for a season, though I know that probably doesn’t happen.

But need to make
Sure they know there will be sanctions if they try this again in a few years. Because we all know them yanks won’t be happy
 

He could have knocked up a flat pack stadium full of corporate boxes on the M62 the minute he walked through the door. He could have had David Moyes on low wages keeping us in the league every season developing assets for him to sell so he could make the club sustainable. He could have financed the whole thing on debt saddled on the club then taken out of the profits.

Instead he is ploughing money into the club at a huge personal cost to himself to give Everton a world class stadium, pay for a world class manager, and fund recruitment as best as possible. He doesn’t need to do any of these things if he was only interested in making money.

Yes he’s an investor, but you can only judge someone on what they do. People keep saying we haven’t been asked to the super league. Given the problems they are likely to have setting this up do you not think if we had offered to join with all of Usmanov’s wealth behind us, one of the richest clubs in the world, a huge premier league figure which would further give them legitimacy and undermine opposition from the PL, a club with a good reach in obscure markets like Columbia, Thailand, Nigeria, Australia, South Africa, do you not think they would have bitten our hand off?
No, they wouldn't have been the slightest bit interested, but I'll have a pint of what you're having.
 
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They wanted Red Bull Leipzig in. They’d definitely take us.
It fits the international quota. If they'd wanted us they would have asked us. But why would they? Have we won anything recently? No. Have we competed in the champions league or even Europe recently? No. Were half of the premier league's players even born the last time we won a cup nevermind the league? No.

We're really not a big catch in 2021
 
He could have knocked up a flat pack stadium full of corporate boxes on the M62 the minute he walked through the door. He could have had David Moyes on low wages keeping us in the league every season developing assets for him to sell so he could make the club sustainable. He could have financed the whole thing on debt saddled on the club then taken out of the profits.

Instead he is ploughing money into the club at a huge personal cost to himself to give Everton a world class stadium, pay for a world class manager, and fund recruitment as best as possible. He doesn’t need to do any of these things if he was only interested in making money.

Yes he’s an investor, but you can only judge someone on what they do. People keep saying we haven’t been asked to the super league. Given the problems they are likely to have setting this up do you not think if we had offered to join with all of Usmanov’s wealth behind us, one of the richest clubs in the world, a huge premier league figure which would further give them legitimacy and undermine opposition from the PL, a club with a good reach in obscure markets like Columbia, Thailand, Nigeria, Australia, South Africa, do you not think they would have bitten our hand off?
You being serious? You cannot be that naive.

Everything you have stated is about him increasing the value of the asset. He’s an investor not a philanthropist. Does he get genuine joy from seeing Everton win? Yes. All these owners do. But these ain’t Jack Walker types with an emotional attachment to the club. It’s all financially driven. Moshiri was very recently at Arsenal, he went to Everton as wasn’t able to gain the foothold he wanted at Arsenal.

This “super” league guarantees an absolute fortune for the clubs involved. The thought that Moshiri would turn this down is hilarious.

There is nothing to be proud of Everton today, just as there is nothing to be disgusted by the six clubs in this proposed breakaway. It’s not about the clubs, this is owner driven. The owners are merely custodians (or they should be) who have become parasites.
 

You being serious? You cannot be that naive.

Everything you have stated is about him increasing the value of the asset. He’s an investor not a philanthropist. Does he get genuine joy from seeing Everton win? Yes. All these owners do. But these ain’t Jack Walker types with an emotional attachment to the club. It’s all financially driven. Moshiri was very recently at Arsenal, he went to Everton as wasn’t able to gain the foothold he wanted at Arsenal.

This “super” league guarantees an absolute fortune for the clubs involved. The thought that Moshiri would turn this down is hilarious.

There is nothing to be proud of Everton today, just as there is nothing to be disgusted by the six clubs in this proposed breakaway. It’s not about the clubs, this is owner driven. The owners are merely custodians (or they should be) who have become parasites.

You don’t put out the statement we put out today if you’re hoping for a future invite. There were other far cheaper, far quicker ways for Moshiri to increase the value of his asset and he didn’t take them. I never said he wasn’t an investor or that he was a die hard fan of the club, I was contesting the claims that he would have ‘definitely’ signed up to this if we’d been asked.

Im saying all we have to judge him on is why he’s done already and they are not the actions of an ultra greedy charlatan who would definitely sign up to this.

This argument of ‘you all would do it if you could’ is completely juvenile and unfortunately fans of top 6 clubs who have laughed and mocked the rest of the league for decades are now receiving a bit of mockery back and just cannot accept it one bit and are lashing out.
 
Are we trying to punish them or force them to leave? We should be encouraging them to stay not giving them more reasons to go
No, We shouldn’t be encouraging them to stay they should all be punished and called out for what they are.
Giving them a ‘please don’t go we need ye’ plea!

Do they really need telling that this is immoral?

The fans of the 6 clubs in this league should be hounding out there clubs owners right now for this.
 
They should be called the "Judas Six".
Sitting with their EPL counterparts week in week out and having secret meetings. Selling out the others they've been working with for 30 pieces of silver...
This has to be stopped now and forever, minor points deduction is too little and league expulsion is too much. The punishment should be handed out by Uefa and FIFA not by the EPL. We still have to live and work with these teams week in week out although they will now bear the Judas Mark.
Boot them out of the Champions League, Europa League and World Club Cup for 3 years. No need for points deductions in the prem - just make them martyrs. A very heavy fine in the Premier League would suffice.
 
It fits the international quota. If they'd wanted us they would have asked us. But why would they? Have we won anything recently? No. Have we competed in the champions league or even Europe recently? No. Were half of the premier league's players even born the last time we won a cup nevermind the league? No.

We're really not a big catch in 2021
In other words, we're a bit like Spurs????
 
I think he is putting out the sensible counter argument - not so much agreeing with it just where they stand. You negotiate from we'll do this which is completely unreasonable and then end up after negotiations with something not quite as damaging but way more has been conceded by the authorities than previously thought possible.

For a lot of yesterday's program he was saying that you either have salary caps or they have to push for control over incomes. Subscription based football basically so the big clubs take the lions share I'd imagine is the end goal here.

The issue is that...this threat is always there. They won't get everything their way. Even if it's a compromise on something, all it takes is something else to happen for them to pull out the Super League proposal and this starts again.

It needs stopping, plugged, and put to bed.
 

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