Everton Youth Teams Thread

blueblue

Player Valuation: £50m
I think Solanke was rated better than DCL when they both player for England U 20’s or U21’s when England won the World Cup at that level, yet DCL seems to be ahead now, and Solanke was transferred fromLiverpool to Bournemouth in the last transfer window for £18M.
Anybody who watched that under 20 team with an objective eye would have picked DCL as the potentially better player, but Solanke was a media favourite and most of the commentary was about him.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
Anybody who watched that under 20 team with an objective eye would have picked DCL as the potentially better player, but Solanke was a media favourite and most of the commentary was about him.
It's not just about that tournament though. Cameron's right, Solanke was definitely rated more highly than DCL as a junior, he won the u17 tournament too, and the FA Youth Cup, and the Youth Champions League or whatever it was called, and I think he was top scorer in all of them. He also got an England call up for the senior team, and if there's one criticism you can't throw at Southgate it's that he's swayed by the media or who somebody plays for. DCL appears to have overtaken him now, which is great, but Solanke was definitely the great hope when they were juniors.
 

blueblue

Player Valuation: £50m
It's not just about that tournament though. Cameron's right, Solanke was definitely rated more highly than DCL as a junior, he won the u17 tournament too, and the FA Youth Cup, and the Youth Champions League or whatever it was called, and I think he was top scorer in all of them. He also got an England call up for the senior team, and if there's one criticism you can't throw at Southgate it's that he's swayed by the media or who somebody plays for. DCL appears to have overtaken him now, which is great, but Solanke was definitely the great hope when they were juniors.
Solanke was at Chelsea where they attract the very best youngsters so he would have been part of a huge talented and successful youth set up. He was of course going to be in the spotlight.
DCL was at Sheffield Utd....
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
Solanke was at Chelsea where they attract the very best youngsters so he would have been part of a huge talented and successful youth set up. He was of course going to be in the spotlight.
DCL was at Sheffield Utd....
So you agree he was rated more highly then. Glad we cleared that one up.
 

Cameron Manning

Player Valuation: £5m
Anybody who watched that under 20 team with an objective eye would have picked DCL as the potentially better player, but Solanke was a media favourite and most of the commentary was about him.
Yes I’d go along with that, I think Solanke was voted England’s best player in that tourament because he was the leading goalscorer.
 

blueblue

Player Valuation: £50m
So you agree he was rated more highly then. Glad we cleared that one up.
He was rated higher by the media but as I said anybody who watched the games would easily have seen who the better player was.

Somebody made the very valid point last week that if DCL players for a top six side he would be in the full England squad at the moment .

When we start buying players because they are rated by the media then we really are in trouble.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
He was rated higher by the media but as I said anybody who watched the games would easily have seen who the better player was.

Somebody made the very valid point last week that if DCL players for a top six side he would be in the full England squad at the moment .

When we start buying players because they are rated by the media then we really are in trouble.
Make your mind up mate. You’ve just said Chelsea have a great youth set up and can attract the best players, but now you want to say that their best player wasn’t actually good, it was just the media. And Southgate picks players for England based on who they play for, which fully explains why Keane, Pickford, maguire, chilwell, ward prowse and tarkowski get picked doesn’t it?

Why on earth you’re talking about buying players I have no idea. The point was simply that solanke was rated more highly than DCL a couple of years ago. He was, clearly, but DCL has improved since then and it appears solanke hasn’t. Most people would see that as a positive, but nah, let’s talk down the possibility of our coaches doing a good job and DCL working hard and pretend everyone had him pegged as a star from age 12.
 

Nymzee

Player Valuation: £70m
Nice info from the Echo; looks to be impressing.

"Gibson's form has not gone unnoticed at Finch Farm either. He has been invited by Marco Silva to train with the first-team in recent weeks following injuries to Phil Jagielka and Yerry Mina.

Insiders suggest he has held his own in a senior environment. But this has left Everton with a big decision to make over his future."
 

Eggs

Player Valuation: £70m
Nice info from the Echo; looks to be impressing.

"Gibson's form has not gone unnoticed at Finch Farm either. He has been invited by Marco Silva to train with the first-team in recent weeks following injuries to Phil Jagielka and Yerry Mina.

Insiders suggest he has held his own in a senior environment. But this has left Everton with a big decision to make over his future."
....chuffed with that, he’s impressed me for 18 months ago. My only concern is whether we have another Holgate situation regarding his best position, but I am more encouraged by his physicality to cope with being a CB. He’s left sided which is a plus, he’s a defender that likes to defend and he’s comfortable on the ball.

He’s been a regular at U23 for a while despite being younger, and has captained the team for a while.

It sounds to me like he’s already leapfrogging Holgate and Pennington who are out on loan, plus the other CBs playing at U23 level. I’m not surprised.
 

T LEAFE

Player Valuation: £15m
Nice info from the Echo; looks to be impressing.

"Gibson's form has not gone unnoticed at Finch Farm either. He has been invited by Marco Silva to train with the first-team in recent weeks following injuries to Phil Jagielka and Yerry Mina.

Insiders suggest he has held his own in a senior environment. But this has left Everton with a big decision to make over his future."
If he’s that good why is there a big decision to be made about his future?
 

T LEAFE

Player Valuation: £15m
....chuffed with that, he’s impressed me for 18 months ago. My only concern is whether we have another Holgate situation regarding his best position, but I am more encouraged by his physicality to cope with being a CB. He’s left sided which is a plus, he’s a defender that likes to defend and he’s comfortable on the ball.

He’s been a regular at U23 for a while despite being younger, and has captained the team for a while.

It sounds to me like he’s already leapfrogging Holgate and Pennington who are out on loan, plus the other CBs playing at U23 level. I’m not surprised.
I think Penno has been leapfrogged and nutmegged. Can’t see him playing for us again to be fair
 

catcherintherye

Player Valuation: £60m
It's not just about that tournament though. Cameron's right, Solanke was definitely rated more highly than DCL as a junior, he won the u17 tournament too, and the FA Youth Cup, and the Youth Champions League or whatever it was called, and I think he was top scorer in all of them. He also got an England call up for the senior team, and if there's one criticism you can't throw at Southgate it's that he's swayed by the media or who somebody plays for. DCL appears to have overtaken him now, which is great, but Solanke was definitely the great hope when they were juniors.
Solanke was similar to Hallam Hope here (and Brewster and potentially Simms) in that he was a massive lad who relied heavily on his size. He had very limited ability beyond that, which was quite clear once he got towards 18/19. There's a reason Chelsea were happy to let him leave.

DCL was more unknown, he came up the harder way. If you'd watched both at 18 though, it would be very hard to draw the distinction Solanke was the better player. It's clear he had peaked in relative terms.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
Solanke was similar to Hallam Hope here (and Brewster and potentially Simms) in that he was a massive lad who relied heavily on his size. He had very limited ability beyond that, which was quite clear once he got towards 18/19. There's a reason Chelsea were happy to let him leave.

DCL was more unknown, he came up the harder way. If you'd watched both at 18 though, it would be very hard to draw the distinction Solanke was the better player. It's clear he had peaked in relative terms.
Hahaha I look forward to Hope and Brewster playing for England and getting bought for £19m then mate, must be a matter of time.

Chelsea wanted to keep him by the way, they offered him more money than Liverpool I believe, but he wanted to play. He looked good as a kid, I thought he’d be very good when I saw at that age so you can put me down as someone who can’t pick a player. At least I’ll be in good company on here.
 

Pabbers

Player Valuation: £70m
Salanke is a quality prospect, his move to them was a bad one really. In the time he was with them, DCL has got about 50+ games for us, thats why he looks better.

Like em both, both could destroy defenders for years in this league and interntaionally.
 

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