Everton v Crystal Palace. 21st Sep at 16.00.

[keverton]

Martinez must be tearing his hair out with some of the mistakes we are making at the back

It's not like he's training them to be error prone is it?

While I do agree that he must be tearing his hair out it must also be questioned why such players who have been consistent performers over a number of seasons are now leaking goals all over the place, the management is not blameless here.

 

[Del]

Stones needs to be played CB

Jagielka and distin can never be played together

Howard needs a kick up his inflated ego arse

Martinez can GTF getting tired of him already this season clown team selections against the crap teams expecting just to turn up to win and constant supporting the lads at times you need to RIP INTO THEM bobby not "oh ah just enjoy it lads"

A team with Eto,Lukaku,McCarthy,Barry and Baines in the starting 11 should have plenty enough to beat a very average Palace side

The fact is we created enough chances and had enough control over the game to win it easily, Errors have cost us and no manager can influence that once the players go out onto the pitch

 

[maurice]

at least my weekend is ruined

 

[bignev23]

Oh Timmy why, Why do you do this to us, Stop, please stop.


Martinez seemed clueless as to how deal with the situation as well.

 

[Blue Truth]

Don't think you can blame the team selection as it was entirely Howard's fault that they got the first 2 goals. Then Osman gifts them another which is partially Martinez fault for moving him into a deeper position which he should never play in under any circumstances.

 

[TGW89]

so we lose the derby next week YAY, then we lose to man u YAY then we are bottom of the league

That's the idea I think... bottom of the league after losing just one of the first 17 games last term.

 

[matty1878]

Absolute joke

 

[Durham Toffee]

at least my weekend is ruined

6pm on a Sunday isn't too bad though...

 

[deipnosophist]

Palace scored 3 vs Liverpool...and did the same to us...in our last two confrontations...at Goodison FFS!

 

[marty mcfly]

Why oh why did we not buy a right back?

It was obvious Coleman was going to be out a lot this season with his recent injuries, even Martinez doesnt rate Hibbert and Stones is not a right back.

There was a couple free in th summer too.

 

[LAToffee]

LOL. It worked. 100% gave us the go forward we needed. A bit of luck and one of our chances goes in and we get the draw.

We conceded on the right after we took Stones off and Speroni sent all balls that way knowing McCarthy was out of his depth.

 

[kenada_blue]

Yeah, never been able to pass or cross but can defend.

We've got plenty who can pass and cross. Not so many who can defend.

 

[Number_25]

Lineup against Swansea.

Robles, Hibbert, Stones, Alcarez, Baines, Besic, Gibson, Mirallas, Naismith, Coleman, Eto'o.

 

[bicycleheader]

The whole comparison to Wigan is just bs imo. Just jumping on a bandwagon because it's been spoke of so much.

Howard & Baines didn't play very well, nor did Lukaku (despite the goals from them). Looked like we were going to spank them at the start but we really just didn't push on enough and it's something we really need to address.

We're still boss guys. Just so happens that we've started the season with nerves, and I think that the pressure of performing to a level similar to last season might be hampering them - oh and i'm certain crystal palace are our official bogey team now? We screw up against them every time.

Also, I really didn't think Atsu was very good. He did make some nice runs in behind, which were delefeou-esque, however he didn't have nearly the same ball control as Del boy did,

A large majority of footy fans dont have an original thought between them. They just repeat cliches or something they read.

We really miss Ross carrying it forward because our passing doesn't create enough situations with a man advantage at the moment.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

Poor performance front USA. Terrible mistakes. But he has been solid up till now behind a dodgy defence. Distan looks on the downhill fairly quick. Osman hit the bottom 2 years ago just after his England call up. He's proper kack

 

[Titus Bramble]

Giving away stupid goals was our problem, not chances created.

I was replying to the 'we did nothing going forward' remark.