Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[blulouie]

Will you be happy if they replace the manager, make one or two new signings and then next year we get his with a breech of PSR charge and deducted points?

As that's exactly what the reality could very well be this season.

Dyche himself dispelled the rumour he has a clause for compensation in a press conference.
Widely known on here mate.

 

[COYBL25]

What are they supposed to be doing though exactly?

Maybe they are indeed fully aware of the situation and issues at present and as such have a bit more info than we do about just how close to PSR we will come in at for this season?

Given firing Dyche right now will cost us the remainder of his contract and by reports and extra full year payment. Dyche is reportedly on 5m per year, so paying him off right now will cost around 7.5m all up front all counting on this tears figures.

That's the same amount on PSR as paying out 38m in January for new players on 5 year contracts.

Given we did not seem to have a huge amount of room in the summer on PSR then anyone expecting them to walk in day one fire the manager hire another (if there in work the compensation would also all come out of this years btw) and spend on players is completely insane.

If we fire Dyche hire say someone we'd have to pay 3-4m to get out there contract you are looking at a hit in PSR the equivalent of spending around 60m on new players.

Maybe a reason they are hoping to get through till the summer as it could be a case of replacing the manager will mean either of the following, having to hire an out of work manager due to saving money, zero ability to bring any players in during January for any new manager, or worst case having to actually sell players during January to facilitate a managerial change.

Oh the figures I'm giving are conservative as well as we'd have to pay off all his staff and any compensation packages for any new managers staff.

Just because we have a new owner who has money and has restricted or payed off almost all debts dies not alter the PSR situation by anything more than the savings in the loan repayments - some of which we were trying to write off anyway as investment in infrastructure (stadium loans)

Dyche has gone on record as saying that the story about having to pay him an extra years salary if he`s sacked, is a just a made up story, so you can strike that one off.

It`s quite simple.

Will it cost more to pay up the remainder of Dyche contract, along with his mob and hire a new manager or will it cost more to get relegated.

We all know that answer to that, as do the new owners, so it`s just really a question of do they stick or do they twist.

 

[blulouie]

Dyche has gone on record as saying that the story about having to pay him an extra years salary if he`s sacked, is a just a made up story, so you can strike that one off.

It`s quite simple.

Will it cost more to pay up the remainder of Dyche contract, along with his mob and hire a new manager or will it cost more to get relegated.

We all know that answer to that, as do the new owners, so it`s just really a question of do they stick or do they twist.

It's really as simple as this .

 

[matty1878]

Dyche has gone on record as saying that the story about having to pay him an extra years salary if he`s sacked, is a just a made up story, so you can strike that one off.

It`s quite simple.

Will it cost more to pay up the remainder of Dyche contract, along with his mob and hire a new manager or will it cost more to get relegated.

We all know that answer to that, as do the new owners, so it`s just really a question of do they stick or do they twist.

you twist

dyche knows he’s going the players know he’s going - half of the players are going

twist it is

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Dyche has gone on record as saying that the story about having to pay him an extra years salary if he`s sacked, is a just a made up story, so you can strike that one off.

It`s quite simple.

Will it cost more to pay up the remainder of Dyche contract, along with his mob and hire a new manager or will it cost more to get relegated.

We all know that answer to that, as do the new owners, so it`s just really a question of do they stick or do they twist.

TWIST DAMMIT, TWIST...
Yes, it's up to the new owners.

 

[Dymak]

Who the hell made up that nonsense about Dyche receiving an additional years worth of salary, beyond his contract, in the event of him being sacked?

I swear there is a group of Evertonians that are obsessed with dismissing absolutely everything, to the point that it has become some kind of reflex, and to the point that some of them will just make things up to make the situation even more difficult than it actually is.

 

[Blue Roo]

What are they supposed to be doing though exactly?

Maybe they are indeed fully aware of the situation and issues at present and as such have a bit more info than we do about just how close to PSR we will come in at for this season?

Given firing Dyche right now will cost us the remainder of his contract and by reports and extra full year payment. Dyche is reportedly on 5m per year, so paying him off right now will cost around 7.5m all up front all counting on this tears figures.

That's the same amount on PSR as paying out 38m in January for new players on 5 year contracts.

Given we did not seem to have a huge amount of room in the summer on PSR then anyone expecting them to walk in day one fire the manager hire another (if there in work the compensation would also all come out of this years btw) and spend on players is completely insane.

If we fire Dyche hire say someone we'd have to pay 3-4m to get out there contract you are looking at a hit in PSR the equivalent of spending around 60m on new players.

Maybe a reason they are hoping to get through till the summer as it could be a case of replacing the manager will mean either of the following, having to hire an out of work manager due to saving money, zero ability to bring any players in during January for any new manager, or worst case having to actually sell players during January to facilitate a managerial change.

Oh the figures I'm giving are conservative as well as we'd have to pay off all his staff and any compensation packages for any new managers staff.

Just because we have a new owner who has money and has restricted or payed off almost all debts dies not alter the PSR situation by anything more than the savings in the loan repayments - some of which we were trying to write off anyway as investment in infrastructure (stadium loans)

I don't get all this financial stuff but if this is the case then best bet to avoid relegation is to spend on players rather than on sacking Dyche.

 

[Blue Roo]

A new coach won't necessarily get a better turn from these players. Sacking Dyche at the expense of new first team players may not be wise. Maybe get a 6 point new manager bounce but if we're scrapping at the end of season with Wolves, Palace Leceister with the same team we're more likely to go down

 

[Frosty1878]

Dyche is reportedly on 5m per year, so paying him off right now will cost around 7.5m all up front all counting on this tears figures.

How does that work if he’s only got 6/7 months remaining. Would be around 2.5m surely.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Will you be happy if they replace the manager, make one or two new signings and then next year we get his with a breech of PSR charge and deducted points?

As that's exactly what the reality could very well be this season.

None of us know the 24 25 PSR position

If its choice of either a manager or a new signing, then a new manager is the obvious choice.

We are also allowed to sell players to help the situation. We also have the ability to make sales before 30 June in the summer window.

There are options available for us. Doing nothing and hoping for the best is the worst option and very complacent

 

[Tony’s Carp]

A new coach won't necessarily get a better turn from these players. Sacking Dyche at the expense of new first team players may not be wise. Maybe get a 6 point new manager bounce but if we're scrapping at the end of season with Wolves, Palace Leceister with the same team we're more likely to go down

That 6 point bounce could be all it takes. Bearing in mind Leicester and Wolves have already played that card and are still below us.

 

[Toffeepot]

I don't get all this financial stuff but if this is the case then best bet to avoid relegation is to spend on players rather than on sacking Dyche.

No
Spend 2.5mil on sacking dyche too
Wouldn't get much of a player for that these days anyway unless our scouting has drastically improved

 

[Blue Roo]

In order of priority I'd go LB, RW, striker as most needed.
- Have to get someone in who can overlap from the back, can link with Ndaiye/McNeil, get advantage from 1 to 1s, put in decent crosses and has a bit of attacking vision to go with defensive nous.
- no.10 should be either Ndaiye or McNeil. Doucoure has to be binned at 10 and Freidkin can force Dyches hand by selling him.
- there has to be a genuine attacking threat from the right, it shouldn't be that hard to get in a player to improve on what is there.
- RB has been an issue for a long time but will have to wait to get others in first.
- Need a better 9 desperately, esp as Broja is more injured than not, but more likely to get a better turn out of the current crop with a better LB and RW than the other way round sacrificing one of these for a new striker. Ideally we could get in all three.
- Garner and Tim will come back into the fold and strengthen so I don't see new CM or 10 as a priority this season.

 

[Blue Willy]

1. Goal Scoring Centre Forward
2. RB
3. RW (out and out pacey winger that can cross)
4. LB
5. Midfield General that can pass forward

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

Maybe so, but regardless of that, it’s a relegation rival beating us to a transfer target. They’re actively strengthening whilst we languish around getting the second, third options as per. The bigger picture concerns deepen

That's assuming we went for him. Bobble said Romano massively jumped the gun and all we'd done was ask Villa about his availability and they were still to decide. If Ipswich have jumped in and offered 6m more than they paid for him only a few months ago i imagine that made Villa's mind up sharpish. Granted the optics aren't great but what can you do if the twitterverse has decided we've bid for someone even when we haven't (and we hadn't)? Same thing happened a few days ago with Potter. Sounds like Potters peoples used us to get the terms he wanted from West Ham but the optics are Potter got us and West Ham in a room and binned us in dramatic fashion like some reject on love island. Philogene's agent whored his player around all summer taking pictures outside every training ground in the league and he almost went to Ipswich before Villa triggered the buy back so maybe personal terms etc were all in place already.
I don't defend our club often but i don't think Everton have done much wrong other than be linked with a player. We have no idea whether he was first, second or third choice. He wasn't first choice in the summer.