Match Thread Everton 2-2 Man United. Sat Feb 22nd. 12.30.

[UltraVires]

Can’t understand some of the fume at Moyes over his subs.

He has changed us around and we are an already thin squad suffering an injury spell not too dissimilar to Spurs that has been talked about by pundits as an excuse for far worse results.

The team did well for an hour and that lack of energy told.

We were Dyche fit which meant we could sit back for 90 mins and hope to catch a lucky goal from a nothing chance.

In contrast. Moyes has us playing aggressive and front foot football which requires more energy so it’s no wonder this team can’t do a full 90 mins at that pace just yet.

It’s like asking someone who’s done a couch to 5k to run a half marathon instead.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

….a game like that where I think Ndiaye makes a huge difference with his quality.

Yeah. Second half we just lack that bit of craft and creativity.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Can’t understand some of the fume at Moyes over his subs.

He has changed us around and we are an already thin squad suffering an injury spell not too dissimilar to Spurs that has been talked about by pundits as an excuse for far worse results.

The team did well for an hour and that lack of energy told.

We were Dyche fit which meant we could sit back for 90 mins and hope to catch a lucky goal from a nothing chance.

In contrast. Moyes has us playing aggressive and front foot football which requires more energy so it’s no wonder this team can’t do a full 90 mins at that pace just yet.

It’s like asking someone who’s done a couch to 5k to run a half marathon instead.

People also forget that Man Utd still have a lot of very good players. We were undone by two great goals.

 

[Street end man]

Is the rumour that the ref said Maguire pulled Youngs shirt true?
Then var showed him that not to be the case on video.
Whist withholding the footage it was in fact de ligt?
I hope it's not, fuming enough already.
If it is true surely nice polite Everton will kick up a major stink for once.

 

[southbluey]

Can’t understand some of the fume at Moyes over his subs.

He has changed us around and we are an already thin squad suffering an injury spell not too dissimilar to Spurs that has been talked about by pundits as an excuse for far worse results.

The team did well for an hour and that lack of energy told.

We were Dyche fit which meant we could sit back for 90 mins and hope to catch a lucky goal from a nothing chance.

In contrast. Moyes has us playing aggressive and front foot football which requires more energy so it’s no wonder this team can’t do a full 90 mins at that pace just yet.

It’s like asking someone who’s done a couch to 5k to run a half marathon instead.

I think it’s a reflex from his last spell here. Doesn’t have a bench so complaining about subs is a non starter

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

It was definitely not a clear and obvious error and like betos goal it's being rereffed.
Young never got booked ,so that tells a story.

 

[Dharma]

Be interesting to see what MOTD pundits say.

I'm sure they'll tow the official line. Utd have turned the corner and Fernandez ran the show.
Gana had him in his pocket till the Ref stepped in.
We were absolutely robbed today, anyone could see the that. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

 

[hallamblue]

Is the rumour that the ref said Maguire pulled Youngs shirt true?
Then var showed him that not to be the case on video.
Whist withholding the footage it was in fact de ligt?
I hope it's not, fuming enough already.
If it is true surely nice polite Everton will kick up a major stink for once.

Yep the ref told the VAR why he'd given the penalty and the VAR told him he was mistaken so he overturned it.

 

[daza_1973]

Reminded me of the 1-1 in March 2020 - just before Covid when a perfectly good winner was ruled out for ridiculous reasons.
The game is bent without a doubt.
Scab six preferential treatment is the order of the day - every day.
Just glad we are almost over the line in the relegation terms - otherwise it would of been even more of a travesty

 

[Street end man]

Yep the ref told the VAR why he'd given the penalty and the VAR told him he was mistaken so he overturned it.

Wow.

 

[UltraVires]

People also forget that Man Utd still have a lot of very good players. We were undone by two great goals.

Exactly mate. although I do question the free kick for their first goal. Having seen a replay back now on TV, I think Doucoure’s arm is wide of his body but it’s not unnatural. I would argue it’s unnatural to jump with your arms welded to your side.

 

[hallamblue]

Exactly mate. although I do question the free kick for their first goal. Having seen a replay back now on TV, I think Doucoure’s arm is wide of his body but it’s not unnatural. I would argue it’s unnatural to jump with your arms welded to your side.

Nah it was a blatant handball, he had no reason to have his arm up like that other than to block the ball.

 

[MACCA75]

It was definitely not a clear and obvious error and like betos goal it's being rereffed.
Young never got booked ,so that tells a story.

Can’t book someone from a VAR check. Otherwise Jota would have definitely been booked for his ridiculous dive last week.

 

[Titus Shambles]

People also forget that Man Utd still have a lot of very good players. We were undone by two great goals.

Disagree about the second bit (and probably the first bit too, tbf). Ugarte's hit for the second wasn't a great, Zidane-esque volley, it could have hit anyone in that cluster of players, gone anywhere, and maybe a goalkeeper with a bigger reach or better positioning saves it, who knows. Bruno's freekick would have been a simple goal line clearance if we'd have put a man on the post (as should be common sense with a free kick that close), instead we went with "the draft excluder" so somebody was laying on the ground behind the wall, even though only twice in about 15 years of world football has anyone gone under the wall.

As much of it was our own doing, if the ref hadn't given United a freekick for every single inconvinience and tap they had, and hadn't been so blatantly biased (or at least so incompetent at refereeing fairly) the first goal wouldn't have ever come about, and the momentum wouldn't have shifted, and the mood wouldn't have changed, and the team wouldn't have wobbled, and we'd not -to a man- being having visions of the B'mouth collapse the second Bruno hit the net, let alone talking about it six hours later. United didn't just "get out of jail" today, they were helped out by the people in control of the game IMO.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Nah it was a blatant handball, he had no reason to have his arm up like that other than to block the ball.

Just jumped myself as a test and did the same thing as Doucoure.

You should trust the men of science!