Donald Trump for President Thread

[RaleighBlue]

Personally, I would want the primary system to be changed first.
I'm probably in the minority but I like the electoral college (look at all the different states, communities the candidates were visiting). My concern with a direct popular vote is that outreach would be limited to LA, Chicago, NYC

I don't hate the electoral college for much the reason you suggest. However, our society is being drawn to those cities by economics. If that continues, we need to seriously re-assess the electoral college to ensure that the majority of our people are not being governed by the will of the minority, which is what happens when the popular vote and electoral college don't match up.

Basically we're in a really tough spot where the urban and rural votes generally disagree on pretty much everything.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Is it a new system, or do you just not like it because you do not like the result........

The system is objectively broken. The result is simply a symptom.

Clinton winning would have also been an indicator we have a totally broken system in which compromise cannot exist.

 

[ilikecheese]

Is it a new system, or do you just not like it because you do not like the result........

Well it's been wrong in 40% of the last 5 elections. So I think it could be something open for debate.

 

[peteblue]

Well it's been wrong in 40% of the last 5 elections. So I think it could be something open for debate.

So its been right for 60% of the last 5 elections......I haven't a clue whether it's good or bad tbh, just testing views....

 

[rascal]

So anyway, I vow to never visit the USA over these next four years. Sad really as I quite like the place.

 

[peteblue]

I don't hate the electoral college for much the reason you suggest. However, our society is being drawn to those cities by economics. If that continues, we need to seriously re-assess the electoral college to ensure that the majority of our people are not being governed by the will of the minority, which is what happens when the popular vote and electoral college don't match up.

Basically we're in a really tough spot where the urban and rural votes generally disagree on pretty much everything.

The Urban and Rural schism is very similar within the UK. I wonder what really drives it.......

 

[ilikecheese]

So its been right for 60% of the last 5 elections......I haven't a clue whether it's good or bad tbh, just testing views....

Should get it right 100% of the time.

 

[rascal]

I do find it ironic that the USA and UK consider themselves the bastion of democracy, yet both have electoral systems in which the will of the people is not properly represented.

 

[neil999]

The Urban and Rural schism is very similar within the UK. I wonder what really drives it.......

Fear of the unknown/change?

 

[SNova]

I keep hearing that young people are great because they are left wing and that's good for the future. Why do people assume that they won't grow up?

 

[ilikecheese]

Fear of the unknown/change?

Brown people live in urban areas?

 

[Connor]

So anyway, I vow to never visit the USA over these next four years. Sad really as I quite like the place.

I'm going just as his first 100 days come to an end.

Expecting all out war and to be detained on arrival.

 

[peteblue]

I do find it ironic that the USA and UK consider themselves the bastion of democracy, yet both have electoral systems in which the will of the people is not properly represented.

Is there a perfect system anywhere ?.......

 

[Prevenger17]

This lad's a bit much, but he hits the nail on the head imo

 

[zandvoort blue]

The Urban and Rural schism is very similar within the UK. I wonder what really drives it.......

Its the classic Wool versus Bootle hipster divergence