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My neighbour has an xl bully, I was chatting to her the other day and she was really upset as the dog is become quickly unwell, it’s scrathed/chewed off all of its fur in a large area on the side of his body somehow and she said he’s just continually urinating everywhere… she said she can’t take it to the vet though as she can’t get a muzzle on him and the vet refuses to treat the dog again without a muzzle … last time she took it there the vet advised her that the dog basically has a screw loose and is untrainable now at the age of 3 and advised that the dog should be euthanised for the benefit of both the dog and other people.. but my neighbour refuses to have the dog put down, I’m seriously considering contacting the RSPCA when I get home from work this week… purely for my own and my families safety along with everyone else in my street.. god forbid this dog ever escaped from the house.
Probably for her safety as well, mate.
Alarmist, or spot on from the Telegraph:
All American XL Bully dogs could be neutered and muzzled to prevent further attacks under plans put to the Government by a former policing minister.
Kit Malthouse, a former Cabinet minister who led a crackdown on dangerous dogs when Boris Johnson was the Mayor of London, said that new legislation should be introduced in the King’s Speech this autumn to ban the sales, breeding and imports of the XL Bully dogs and bring in “neuter and muzzle” orders.
He said that this should be allied to an amnesty for owners to hand in their dogs if they recognised that they could not handle them, so that they could be cared for in dogs’ homes or put down.
A Government source said that “all options were on the table” to tackle what Mrs Braverman has described as an animal posing a “clear and lethal danger to our communities”. The breed, which can grow to the size of a mountain lion, is said to be responsible for 75 per cent of the fatal dog attacks in the past three years.
Stan Rawlinson, one of Britain’s leading dog behaviour experts who has acted as an expert witness in courts, said that the breed was so dangerous that, for the first time in his career, he believed that it should be added to the list of banned breeds in the Dangerous Dogs Act.
He said that he was normally against “breed-specific legislation” but said: “The XL Bully is the most dangerous dog breed I have ever seen. It’s hyper reactive, has enhanced drive and reactivity that is completely off the scale. There is something wrongly wired.”
He said the XL Bully dogs were “weapons grade” and even more dangerous than the pitbulls that he took action against in 2012. “They are incredibly aggressive, incredibly strong and operate on an incredibly slight hair trigger before they suddenly attack. That’s the concern,” he said.
Ministers would have to legislate to require dogs to be neutered to prevent breeding and muzzled to deter attacks but Mr Malthouse believes that it would be popular with other pet owners, who would be more than willing to report those who disobeyed the orders.
The amnesty would be targeted at those owners who “buy a little puppy but which then grows into a slavering monster”. Mr Malthouse, who was policing minister under Boris Johnson before being promoted to education secretary, added: “If they cannot cope with it, there should be some way to surrender the dog.”
He also proposed specialist police units in response to a 34 per cent rise in dog attacks in the past five years, from 16,394 in 2018 to 21,918 last year
SOURCE: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/11/american-xl-bully-attack-ana-paun-birmingham-ban/
All American XL Bully dogs could be neutered and muzzled to prevent further attacks under plans put to the Government by a former policing minister.
Kit Malthouse, a former Cabinet minister who led a crackdown on dangerous dogs when Boris Johnson was the Mayor of London, said that new legislation should be introduced in the King’s Speech this autumn to ban the sales, breeding and imports of the XL Bully dogs and bring in “neuter and muzzle” orders.
He said that this should be allied to an amnesty for owners to hand in their dogs if they recognised that they could not handle them, so that they could be cared for in dogs’ homes or put down.
A Government source said that “all options were on the table” to tackle what Mrs Braverman has described as an animal posing a “clear and lethal danger to our communities”. The breed, which can grow to the size of a mountain lion, is said to be responsible for 75 per cent of the fatal dog attacks in the past three years.
Stan Rawlinson, one of Britain’s leading dog behaviour experts who has acted as an expert witness in courts, said that the breed was so dangerous that, for the first time in his career, he believed that it should be added to the list of banned breeds in the Dangerous Dogs Act.
He said that he was normally against “breed-specific legislation” but said: “The XL Bully is the most dangerous dog breed I have ever seen. It’s hyper reactive, has enhanced drive and reactivity that is completely off the scale. There is something wrongly wired.”
‘Weapons grade’ dogs
Mr Malthouse led a campaign as London’s deputy mayor a decade ago amid a surge in attacks requiring two ambulance call outs a day to deal with injured victims. In one year, police rounded up 1,000 dangerous canines, which he branded as “weapon” dogs for the way they were used by thugs to intimidate and attack people.He said the XL Bully dogs were “weapons grade” and even more dangerous than the pitbulls that he took action against in 2012. “They are incredibly aggressive, incredibly strong and operate on an incredibly slight hair trigger before they suddenly attack. That’s the concern,” he said.
Ministers would have to legislate to require dogs to be neutered to prevent breeding and muzzled to deter attacks but Mr Malthouse believes that it would be popular with other pet owners, who would be more than willing to report those who disobeyed the orders.
The amnesty would be targeted at those owners who “buy a little puppy but which then grows into a slavering monster”. Mr Malthouse, who was policing minister under Boris Johnson before being promoted to education secretary, added: “If they cannot cope with it, there should be some way to surrender the dog.”
He also proposed specialist police units in response to a 34 per cent rise in dog attacks in the past five years, from 16,394 in 2018 to 21,918 last year
SOURCE: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/11/american-xl-bully-attack-ana-paun-birmingham-ban/
we've currently got two, both rescue dogs and both soft as shabbite. Neither have shown any aggression to people, just squirrels and pigeons.
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Is the vet a dog trainer? Have further tests been done by the vet to determine wether the dog has a medical issue regarding the brain? Probably not on both counts. If so the vet shouldn’t be saying those things it’s unprofessional. If your neighbour loves the dog and wants to give the dog the best possible outcome then I’d be getting a good dog trainer in and whatever else I could do. Does your neighbour walk the dog?
In all sincerity I really do feel for the responsible owners, of which there are many, who’ve trained and raised lovely dogs. As usual a few spoil it for the rest.
I take ownership for this on here. Sorry.
Saw an XL Bully by mine and he was using a single use Vape and didn't put it in the bin.
We need to rid these beasts off our street.
We need to rid these beasts off our street.
The dog attacked the trainer they’d hired …. It was him who said the dog couldn’t be worked with
That Dog is a loose cannon, i'd speak to the RSPCA straight away about it.
Have you seen it Vape? If so, best to acquire a cross bow to protect yourself from it.
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Got you, I was under the assumption the vet said that . Well that’s not good is it. Poor woman and poor dog. Obviously there’s a massive safety issue there. I imagine you feel nervous living next door especially if you have kids .
Kit Malthouse is a bellend.
Licencing is the way. For breeding at the very least, and actually for all breeds imo. Ownership and breeding licencing for at least bigger, more powerful breeds would be far more effective than any ban has ever been.
The XL Bully was never bred for fighting. in fact, every effort was made to breed the prey drive out and for it to be a gentle giant, which the vast majority still are today. Lockdown did this breed and some others absolutely no favours. Every knobhead scally and their mates trying to make a quick £10k, with little or no care taken to preserve the temperament of the breed.
Licenses weren't policed well enough when they tried it before and that's where the government need to direct efforts and resources. But alas, the Tories (and media) will always try and push for the action that is cheapest and most dramatic, whilst banning breeds as NEVER solved the problem of people breeding and owning dogs with little or no intention or ability to train any dog properly.
Ban the XL Bully and arseholes who want a "hard" dog will just move on to the Cane Corso or Presa Canario or whatever other dog that's capable of easily killing people.
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I think certain breeds you should pass various safety checks age being one of them . Teens and 20 year olds buying these type of dogs for image only is a recipe for disaster . Certain dogs need certain types of owners someone who knows how to handle them. There’s certain breeds I like but I wouldn’t have purely because my house isn’t the right environment at this moment in time .
It’s also got a burner phone
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