Does Allardyce deserve some credit?

[ilikecheese]

the people giving him credit are the people who don't go to goodison, fact.

worst 6 months ive ever seen regardless of the results, I still come out fuming after we won because of how dire the game was

Never been to Goodison (hope to make it mind)...I give him no credit whatsoever.

 

[Joey66]

The big controversial issues need to be aired. None are bigger than Big Sam.

Yes all the pies and gravy did it.......

 

[Azza]

Nope.

 

[AmericasToffee]

Allardyce coasted to a finish that was very achievable with the squad. Let's not have our judgements clouded by a clueless Koeman and U-23 Unsy run of abysmal games.

 

[kenada_blue]

We'd be in a worse state if Koeman was still in charge.

Thats all I'll say

 

[dancing llama]

Can we have a new vote about banning all mention of S*m A*******e ever again?

 

[Barnfred 55]

I absolutely loathe the man, but i think he deserves some credit for some of the tough medication he gave us in dragging us out of the mess Koeman had created.

- Retiring Rooney as a striker (Koeman showed no indication of doing it) GIVE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT FOR THIS BUT HELPS THAT HE HAD TOSUN AND WALCOTT ON BOARD
- Binning the multiple number 10s (ok we sometimes played Rooney with Sig out wide but the days of seeing Rooney Klaasen Siggurdson and Sandro in one team were over) KLAASSEN AND SANDRO WERE OUT OF THE TEAM BEFORE HE CAME
- Buying Tosun and Walcott (both will arguably be in Silva’s 11) YES. OK
- Rehabilitating Coleman and Baines from long term injury BAINES WASNT LONG TERM. MESSED UP COLEMANS. PLAYED HIM TOO SOON IMO AND KEPT HIM I FR FULL 90. DIDN'T PLAY AT ALL THE NEXT 2/3 GAMES IF I RECALL.
- Establishing Mason Holgate as a prem CB UNSWORTH DID THIS. HE JUST CARRIED ON WITH SAME FORMULA UNTIL HE CHNGED IT AGAINT WBA. COULDN;T WAIT TO GET HIM OUT OF THE TEAM AFTER THE FA CUP DERBY. DISGRACEFUL THE WAY HE TREATED HIM.
- Reviving Schneiderlin (I despise the coward but by the end he at least had him looking like a passable midfielder we might be able to sell rather than a pile of horse manure) SHOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED INTO THE RESERVES. ONLY PLAYED HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO RISK PLAYING BENI
- Giving Jonjoe Kenny substantial game time. HE HAD NO CHOICE. AND AS SOON AS SEAMUS WAS BACK HE WAS SHUNTED (FAIR ENOUGH) BUT WHEN BAINES CAME BACK MARTINA WAS GETTING ON THE SUBS BENCH AHEAD OF HIM
- Establishing a way of playing to beat the bottom 13 at home.NOT LOSING AT HOME YOU MEAN


He had many many many faults, and I’m not sure i’ll ever see a worse Everton performance than the one against Arsenal. He also thought it sensible to loan out Besic and Lookman. But now that the rage has died down is it time to consider that he may have laid an ok foundation for Silva to build on (in comparison to the utter shower that Koeman left in place)? Silva May end up using the same formation and quite a few of
Allardyde’s first 11 including his 2 buys in his best lineup. Does he deserve a smattering of credit?

As it stands I don't think he was there long enough to do too much long term damage. However if Lookman does leave I will never forgive Allardyce for the horrendous way he handled him. Same with Mason.

 

[peteblue]

You don’t give Allardyce credit, he just takes it all anyway no matter how little he did. Even bringing Tosun in, he hedged his bets before playing him. To even attempt to credit him with the return of our injured fullbacks smacks of Allardyce. The man is a stain upon the reputation of our club.....

 

[Nyhus]

Would never want him back, but ofc he deserves credit. Bland football, but he did the job.

 

[Jags]

Go back to when Koeman got binned, a few of us on here were seriously worried about relegation. Sam did everything we knew he would, play bland football, but grind out some low scoring win/draws against the bottom 13 - enough to stay up.

The one thing that does really book my blood is Lookman, because his actions seem to be having a long term effect. Should have just played him

 

[magicjuan]

GTF

 

[Dymak]

He had the crappest side in the last 15 years in top six form didn’t he? Lets hope Silva can replicate that, and we don’t have people excusing an inferior managerial performance for about two years.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Nada, nada!

 

[Yarrgh]

He deserves a birching on the soles of his feet.

Credit? Do one.

 

[mkrudden]

Without doubt did the job he was brought in to do. Deserves credit for that.
But.
The football was disgusting to watch and his constant manoeuvring between blaming the players when we lost and taking the credit when we won made me stop enjoying Everton. Not even Walter Smith did that to me.