Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

[COYBL25]

Some people find a lot of strength in Religion or spirituality. It's certainly an option if you're that way inclined, but I personally wouldn't recommend "finding Jesus/Allah/Yoda" unless you are already experienced with it.

This is only my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone, so apologies if I do. Through past experience I have found that "finding " religion whilst unwell with any form of mental illness is not normally a good thing for anyone other than the religious group involved. Some quasi religious groups seem to actively encourage people with all kinds of problems to join them : exploiting people who are vulnerable. Yes, they may seem to want to help and support, but invariably their hands will be in your pockets at best. Needs handling very carefully this one.

 

[BiggyRat]

This is only my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone, so apologies if I do. Through past experience I have found that "finding " religion whilst unwell with any form of mental illness is not normally a good thing for anyone other than the religious group involved. Some quasi religious groups seem to actively encourage people with all kinds of problems to join them : exploiting people who are vulnerable. Yes, they may seem to want to help and support, but invariably their hands will be in your pockets at best. Needs handling very carefully this one.

Pretty much agree with you here. I don't have the experience to agree or disagree about it being only 'good' for the Religious group, but it's kind of what I meant by already being experienced with it. If you've gone to a Church previously, all well & good. If it's the first time stepping through the door, then it may not be the right reason to actually go through the door.
I certainly don't mean to denigrate any religious group here, I'm RC myself, but unless the person (Priest) has actual qualifications, I think people would be better off with professional help. Otherwise, it's just 'good intentions' at best.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

Some people find a lot of strength in Religion or spirituality. It's certainly an option if you're that way inclined, but I personally wouldn't recommend "finding Jesus/Allah/Yoda" unless you are already experienced with it.

I agree, that's why I said if it's something that interests you, if not it probably won't help. Just so people don't think I've turned into a religious nut to help ease depression, I'm a Buddhist so I don't believe in a greater power that helps us or anything, only through our own actions can we help ourselves (confiding in someone, seeing doctors etc). Just personally, meditation is a good way to explore your emotions and try to come to terms with why you feel the way you do.

 

[rubberlegs]

Coming into a heavy discussion late here but I'm backing meditation, or silent moments of inner stability, if you prefer to not sound like a hippy by using the M word. Focusing on your being, in the very present moment - not the past or future. Humans are merely organisms with the capability to perceive emotions and time. A situation's weight is only as heavy as you allow it to be. I've been through some pretty gnarly stuff in the year just gone - currently suffering anxiety, depression and severe PTSD. I've found what I've just mentioned has helped me - may not work for some but if you're truly at your wits end you should be willing to try anything. I'm heavily atheist but spirituality doesn't have anything to do with religion. The writings of Eckhart Tolle can shift your consciousness like you wouldn't believe. I recommend reading up on The Flowering of Human Consciousness.

 

[counsillor cox]

Hi guys, not taking the piss here, i could do with some help, only been here a week so not had chance to read the full thread, im properly struggling to get my head around things, dont know which way to turn. Suffered with deppression for years, had professional help but didnt work. Got sectioned years ago, my mum died and the company i subcontracted for went bust, owing me £60k, in the same week. Tried to hang myself whilst in hospital and rather than them helping me i got a caution for criminal damage to the ceiling, on my mams ashes thats a true story. Any suggestions please, dont know where to turn. Again, im not taking the piss.

 

[Groucho]

Hi guys, not taking the piss here, i could do with some help, only been here a week so not had chance to read the full thread, im properly struggling to get my head around things, dont know which way to turn. Suffered with deppression for years, had professional help but didnt work. Got sectioned years ago, my mum died and the company i subcontracted for went bust, owing me £60k, in the same week. Tried to hang myself whilst in hospital and rather than them helping me i got a caution for criminal damage to the ceiling, on my mams ashes thats a true story. Any suggestions please, dont know where to turn. Again, im not taking the piss.

Are you under anyone for care of this at present?

 

[counsillor cox]

Sorry to be so brutally honest but this thread is there for this reason?

 

[steken1]

Hi guys, not taking the piss here, i could do with some help, only been here a week so not had chance to read the full thread, im properly struggling to get my head around things, dont know which way to turn. Suffered with deppression for years, had professional help but didnt work. Got sectioned years ago, my mum died and the company i subcontracted for went bust, owing me £60k, in the same week. Tried to hang myself whilst in hospital and rather than them helping me i got a caution for criminal damage to the ceiling, on my mams ashes thats a true story. Any suggestions please, dont know where to turn. Again, im not taking the piss.

I haven't got any advice at all. But I hope you find a way to get through things and feel better than you do know.

 

[counsillor cox]

Are you under anyone for care of this at present?

No mate, kind of lost trust with the pros after them giving me a caution instead of help? Groucho, i would understand if you felt this inappropriate for a friendly forum, im just looking for help/advice.

 

[Groucho]

No mate, kind of lost trust with the pros after them giving me a caution instead of help? Groucho, i would understand if you felt this inappropriate for a friendly forum, im just looking for help/advice.

I advise you to see your GP as an emergency tomorrow, first thing. This cannot wait, I feel.

You need proper assistance pal.

 

[ste d' indica]

No mate, kind of lost trust with the pros after them giving me a caution instead of help? Groucho, i would understand if you felt this inappropriate for a friendly forum, im just looking for help/advice.

We've had someone in the family with serious depression mate. Even though you've been burned once by the system, I wouldn't give up on this route, there's a lot of different approaches and it can take a couple of different professionals and sessions to find someone you can click with. When you do, the results can be really positive. Start with your GP and go from there.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

Hi guys, not taking the piss here, i could do with some help, only been here a week so not had chance to read the full thread, im properly struggling to get my head around things, dont know which way to turn. Suffered with deppression for years, had professional help but didnt work. Got sectioned years ago, my mum died and the company i subcontracted for went bust, owing me £60k, in the same week. Tried to hang myself whilst in hospital and rather than them helping me i got a caution for criminal damage to the ceiling, on my mams ashes thats a true story. Any suggestions please, dont know where to turn. Again, im not taking the piss.

See your GP as soon as you can, if you can't get an appointment, phone the non-emergency NHS number which is 111. If you feel like you are in immediate danger of doing some damage to yourself phone 999. By posting on here you've taken a really important step in proving to yourself that you want to get better, which is really fantastic, now take that next step. These people are here to help people like us, use them. I hope everything works out for you.

 

[L4Everton]

Erm, no doctor or councillor has ever been able to give someone a caution to the best of my memory. Just saying.

Although the current wait list is a scandal, if you are honest with your Doc and lay it all on the line there may be a fast track solution they can sort for you, but it might mean putting yourself in their hands wholey, and it sounds like there are trust issues so it's rock and a hard place stuff.

Not gonna pry about friends and family, maybe reaching out in that direction might be a way to get onto some sort of terms with the current set of problems, they might even come down the Docs with you for a bit of support.

 

[counsillor cox]

I advise you to see your GP as an emergency tomorrow, first thing. This cannot wait, I feel.

You need proper assistance pal.

I was put on a ward in a psychi

I advise you to see your GP as an emergency tomorrow, first thing. This cannot wait, I feel.

You need proper assistance pal.

I was placed in the hands of the 'right help', and come away with a criminal record, for trying to kill myself, in a psychiatric unit, ive no trust in them. I appreciate this is too much for a football forum, and apologise for getting too deep. Think i misunderstood what this thread was for, its more acceptance and understanding than somewhere to 'open up',

 

[Groucho]

I was put on a ward in a psychi

I was placed in the hands of the 'right help', and come away with a criminal record, for trying to kill myself, in a psychiatric unit, ive no trust in them. I appreciate this is too much for a football forum, and apologise for getting too deep. Think i misunderstood what this thread was for, its more acceptance and understanding than somewhere to 'open up',

I still suggest going to see your GP. It'll be much less harsh than being sectioned and admitted to a unit.

You will receive help. It sounds like you need it.