Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

[l4toffee]

I know from some of your previous posts, that previously you'd been in an extremely stressful situation for a long time ?.

I'm not a medical expert, but from suffering from my own anxiety problems for a long time and my own research I've done, as a result of there being very little help out there, I believe a lot of chronic anxiety problems are caused by the overproduction of the stress hormone Cortisol.

It's produced under normal circumstances as part of the waking up process, but is also produced during periods of extreme stress, as part of the bodies "'fight or flight " programme.

However if you're placed in an extremely stressful situation for a long time, you're body overreacts to every little thing that worries / stresses you out and produces too much of it, leading to anxiety and all the symptoms you describe. You're almost in a " loop " of anxiety.

Have a look at CORTISOL and see what you think ?. It sounds to me as this is what is happening mate.

There are various things that can help - avoid caffeine and alcohol. Excercise, CBT, take zinc, magnesium and vitamin b. There are natural sedatives such as Valerian Root which can help.

I bet you also sleep badly too and wake up with a bang, thinking all kinds of mad things and feel anxious from the moment you wake ? ( too much Cortisol in the system ).

The problem with anxiety, is that it's so hard to treat, that it's almost ignored to an extent by the medical professional.

Hope this helps ?

cheers for that post and taking the time to write it . That sounds like me . My mind over reacts to the least thing and makes any issue no matter worse . My sleeping problems are up and down . Regularly have have weird dreams that wake me up in a panic lol . Even going to kip my anxiety levels go through the roof it's as if my body won't let me wind down . I will look up that cortisol now .. it's something I'll have to live with as I've always had anxiety to various levels but it's Defo more noticeable the last few years and has only become a big problem in that time too.

 

[COYBL25]

cheers for that post and taking the time to write it . That sounds like me . My mind over reacts to the least thing and makes any issue no matter worse . My sleeping problems are up and down . Regularly have have weird dreams that wake me up in a panic lol . Even going to kip my anxiety levels go through the roof it's as if my body won't let me wind down . I will look up that cortisol now .. it's something I'll have to live with as I've always had anxiety to various levels but it's Defo more noticeable the last few years and has only become a big problem in that time too.

You're symptoms virtually mirror mine, including the dreams that wake you up. You just feel massively on edge all the time, which isn't helped by being knackered from lack of a proper sleep.

I try to lead a stress free life as possible now, which combined with excercise and natural supplements etc makes it manageable. I've accepted that I've probably got this condition for the rest of my life, which is one less thing to worry about !.

 

[COYBL25]

Can I just add that you shouldn't take any herbal supliments at all if you're on prescription meds, without consulting your GP first, as taking some of them together can be dangerous.

 

[l4toffee]

You're symptoms virtually mirror mine, including the dreams that wake you up. You just feel massively on edge all the time, which isn't helped by being knackered from lack of a proper sleep.

I try to lead a stress free life as possible now, which combined with excercise and natural supplements etc makes it manageable. I've accepted that I've probably got this condition for the rest of my life, which is one less thing to worry about !.

same here . I've accepted it now it's just trying to manage it . It feels like I'm constantly on a comedown from a session even though I very rarely drink anymore.

 

[flippa]

They don't think my mum have enough money to spend during 10 days in the UK. They ignored my invitation letter where I explained that they will stay at my flat, my pay sleeps, my fathers bank account statement...
They ignored even return flight tickets, saying they are unsure if she have enough money to leave the UK.

That's crap, I'm so sorry to hear that- I know it probably won't make you feel any better, but my friend had a similar situation with her partner this summer. He's Ugandan (and very proud, and quite rightly), and had to provide ridiculous levels of statements and documents for a two week visit whilst she came back to see her parents, only to be told that the Home Office didn't believe he had enough ties to Uganda... ignoring the fact that he owns a farm, livestock, has several employees, has property. understandably he was massively insulted and will never apply to come here again.

It's just embarrassing how "little Britain" we have become. I hope you have some success with your MP, good luck.

 

[broughy]

Emailed some counselling guy today to see if I can get into see him. hopefully he will be able to help me. As someone that keeps himself to himself this seems like a big step ha

 

[Naisy'sCharitableLeanings]

Emailed some counselling guy today to see if I can get into see him. hopefully he will be able to help me. As someone that keeps himself to himself this seems like a big step ha

It is a big step - asking for help is a difficult thing to do for a lot of people. But do it - you'll feel so much better once you've taken a professional into your confidence. Just hearing yourself pour out all the things that have been troubling you will be a huge relief and it's the first step towards getting better. Best of luck!

 

[JelavicBrate2]

That's crap, I'm so sorry to hear that- I know it probably won't make you feel any better, but my friend had a similar situation with her partner this summer. He's Ugandan (and very proud, and quite rightly), and had to provide ridiculous levels of statements and documents for a two week visit whilst she came back to see her parents, only to be told that the Home Office didn't believe he had enough ties to Uganda... ignoring the fact that he owns a farm, livestock, has several employees, has property. understandably he was massively insulted and will never apply to come here again.

It's just embarrassing how "little Britain" we have become. I hope you have some success with your MP, good luck.

All countries are like that I've been kept in airports in the the ex yugoslavia because of views my uncle expressed in the 70s during communism, before I was even born. In fact in the summer 2014 during the height of my depression I was dragged of a tourist bus full of Brits of Germans by the Montenegrin Police for allegedly posing a threat to their stability, when all I was looking for is a cheap bevy and maybe chat up a few nice birds. All countries are strict now.

 

[Goonymook]

it's very distressing when you seek some form of support and your met with silence. just adds to the feelings of rejection circulating within

 

[kithnou]

it's very distressing when you seek some form of support and your met with silence. just adds to the feelings of rejection circulating within

Who's rejecting you? Are you referring to your post yesterday mate? I, and probably others, read it and,I can only say for myself that I thought you wanted to vent so I respected that and didn't respond.
Nobody in this thread rejects anyone.

Edit. What is joy division?

 

[The Esk]

it's very distressing when you seek some form of support and your met with silence. just adds to the feelings of rejection circulating within

There's support here mate, even if the reply to your post is a little late. We certainly are not rejecting you, please be assured of that.

Have you spoke to any health professionals or counsellors over your feelings? Are you on medication, receiving help of any sort?

 

[hallamblue]

it's very distressing when you seek some form of support and your met with silence. just adds to the feelings of rejection circulating within

If you're referring to Joy Division the band in your post I'm not sure becoming obsessed with them is a healthy way to go, given the mental state of Ian Curtis (for those who don't know he was a manic depressive who committed suicide). I'm a great believer in uplifting music to help with one's mental state, or relaxing music to help relieve stress. Finding affirmation for negative thoughts is not the way to go IMHO.

 

[COYBL25]

If you're referring to Joy Division the band in your post I'm not sure becoming obsessed with them is a healthy way to go, given the mental state of Ian Curtis (for those who don't know he was a manic depressive who committed suicide). I'm a great believer in uplifting music to help with one's mental state, or relaxing music to help relieve stress. Finding affirmation for negative thoughts is not the way to go IMHO.

I must admit that I thought the same thing too and didn't really know how to respond if I'm honest.

I'm a massive Joy Division fan and so I know how dark their music is and also the demons that haunted Ian Curtis.

Joy Division is not the stuff to listen to when your heads not right.

 

[COYBL25]

I posted here previously and was inundated with positive counsel and support which was incredible. I then vanished as the mental trauma became overwhelming to point i couldn't respond or even discuss my plight further. As time has transpired i find myself in even further strife as i'm currently residing with friend who could be viewed as a saint. I'm residing in a remote decrepit town in eastern Pennsylvania that is devoid of culture and i feel like im decomposing as a human being. I'm in such a desolate state looking for some form of contact and connection even with a possible significant other yet i feel so insecure and abject of worth. Also I can't seem find individuals of substance to socialize with. Honestly i just want to find someone who enjoys the work of Joy Division which i did briefly but found myself soon rejected after vibing with. Being in a predicament where i find desolation everywhere I've begun to unravel further fixating on my perceived deficiencies where my interest in joy division is beginning to manifest in darker and more permanent impulses. I don't know what to expect to hear but i just need some positive interaction once again apologies if my post was grating

From what you're saying there, a few of things jump out immediately.

You're living somewhere out of the way, in the back of beyond, you've become socially isolated as a result and you're listening to a lot of Joy Division ?.

Without being preachy, those three things put together would bring most people down and if you weren't well to start with, make things much worse.

Is there any chance of going to stay somewhere a bit more vibrant and less isolated, which in turn may increase the likelihood of meeting people who share common interests - Joy Divison for instance ?.

I have a good mate who is a Communtity Pyschiatric nurse in a part of rural England and from what he tells me isolation and lack of anything to do / work are amongst the leading causes of depression in areas like this .

 

[Ashtonian]

I posted here previously and was inundated with positive counsel and support which was incredible. I then vanished as the mental trauma became overwhelming to point i couldn't respond or even discuss my plight further. As time has transpired i find myself in even further strife as i'm currently residing with friend who could be viewed as a saint. I'm residing in a remote decrepit town in eastern Pennsylvania that is devoid of culture and i feel like im decomposing as a human being. I'm in such a desolate state looking for some form of contact and connection even with a possible significant other yet i feel so insecure and abject of worth. Also I can't seem find individuals of substance to socialize with. Honestly i just want to find someone who enjoys the work of Joy Division which i did briefly but found myself soon rejected after vibing with. Being in a predicament where i find desolation everywhere I've begun to unravel further fixating on my perceived deficiencies where my interest in joy division is beginning to manifest in darker and more permanent impulses. I don't know what to expect to hear but i just need some positive interaction once again apologies if my post was grating

Right mate. Had to break your post down a little bit as it was a little hard to read but i have had a read through the post now.

Is it ok if i ask you some questions? The best way me or anyone else can help is if we understand a little better as again the wording of the original post was a little strange. Right, ok, i'll begin.

1. If you don't mind me asking, what is your mental trauma? If not to tell me directly, what sort of area is it in regards to?

2. You say you feel like you are decomposing, what do you spend your time doing to feel like that? what is a normal day for you and more importantly what is your normal day in your own time?

3. Why do you feel you cannot find someone to socialise with? I can understand the other part of it, but why do you feel there is no-one of substance to socialise with?

4. the next part i thought read a little like the rolling stones song paint it black! Again if you don't mind me asking, why is joy division and these impulses connected? I can understand the again mention of negative thoughts about yourself but if you can elaborate a little more on why joy division and dark impulses are being connected in your head then it will allow me to understand you a little better.

5. Your post is not grating and certainly as repeated many times we are all happy to help/listen or give advice


don't take the tone of my reply to be anything other than positive. I ask you these questions because i want to understand you a little better rather than blindly offer any advice that may be irrelevant to your situation or feelings. the way i read your post has given me an idea but yeah, if you want to reply to me then great, i will look forward to your reply mate and hopefully be able to offer some sort of positive advice for you. If you want to ignore me or see my reply as something else then fair enough again.