Director of Football

[catcherintherye]

Moshiri wants a DoF for political reasons: it keeps Kenwright from imposing himself on thre football decisions but allows him to employ a man who he can manipulate and bypass if need be.

It's strategic, not madness.

I think there might be something in it. The question may be, why he dowsnt bin Kenwright?

 

[allen]

Absolutely we need a DoF.

It’s not the 90s, managers don’t last and there needs to be someone who persists with a consistent and educated vision.

 

[davek]

I think there might be something in it. The question may be, why he dowsnt bin Kenwright?

He knows BK can make a lot of mischief for him in the media.

BK holds soft power; Moshiri just owns the club.

 

[catcherintherye]

He knows BK can make a lot of mischief for him in the media.

BK holds soft power; Moshiri just owns the club.

Yes true. But would you want someone like that in your org? Surely you must get rid.

Just don't get it. I think Moshiri and Usmanov buy BKs rubbish.

 

[riddick]

See if Ragnick would be interested right after the Utd gig is up, I know he is meant to stay there another 2 years but maybe he would like to do the DoF again. Either him or Campos. Or....like I really know anyone outside of those two lol

 

[Blue83]

I worry that Kia is in essence DOF. So they want someone to work into him who knows him.

Don't think Frank would have joined if Kia was a worry

 

[catcherintherye]

Don't think Frank would have joined if Kia was a worry

I'm not so sure mate.

 

[BNJ1878]

Unbelievable that anybody thinks we (or any) professional club doesn't need one.

A director of football (if left to do their job unhindered) ensures continuity and therefore stability throughout the club. It's exactly why Brighton openly allow their staff to be approached. They have succession options for every position. I'll bet Dan Ashworth even has a list of candidates ready to go that he feels could replace him.

The problem (our problem) is owners who want to be involved occasionally and Chairmen who still think business is done with a cigar and brandy.

 

[Terrarian]

I voted No but only because of how we just went over the last ones head.

 

[Blue_Berry]

He knows BK can make a lot of mischief for him in the media.

BK holds soft power; Moshiri just owns the club.

So what do you make Dave of Moshiri now coming out and saying Bill has a job for life? Do you think he'd broadcast that to the world if he wanted to retain the option to cull him?

It's a rather cynical version of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Unbelievable that anybody thinks we (or any) professional club doesn't need one.

A director of football (if left to do their job unhindered) ensures continuity and therefore stability throughout the club. It's exactly why Brighton openly allow their staff to be approached. They have succession options for every position. I'll bet Dan Ashworth even has a list of candidates ready to go that he feels could replace him.

The problem (our problem) is owners who want to be involved occasionally and Chairmen who still think business is done with a cigar and brandy.

Dan Ashworth has nothing to do with choosing who Brighton's manager is.

I was as surprised at this as anyone else, but he did a great interview on BT Sport where he described what his responsibilities are and he made it clear that this doesn't include choosing the manager and that the owner/board do that bit.

 

[toffeeblue9]

FWIW I don't think the Moyes model works for many managers. Allowing them to control recruitment etc is not always the best idea. For instance Jurgen Klopp didn't want Salah - his preference was Julian Brandt, as he had admitted, but Liverpool's scouting and data people convinced him that Salah was the outstanding candidate for the role they wanted to fill. The "eye test" is not always the most reliable one, but it's the one which most managers rely on.

Finding a manager who has the time and ability to coach the first team to a high standard and control recruitment is a huge ask. There aren't many about. It's why the DOF model is there. A DOF controls a lot more than recruitment usually - there is a recruitment department with a head and they do their thing, along with medical, loans, etc - the DOF just oversees it all. It doesn't usually mean that the DOF is solely responsible for recruitment.

The structure we decide upon will influence greatly whether a DOF is required, but, importantly, the role of a DOF differs from model to model so it's pretty pointless us all offering an opion on whether the role is required until we know what the structure will look like

 

[davek]

So what do you make Dave of Moshiri now coming out and saying Bill has a job for life? Do you think he'd broadcast that to the world if he wanted to retain the option to cull him?

It's a rather cynical version of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'.

He's tethering him. Keep him on the inside of the tent rather than the outside pissing on it.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Just because it's been a disastrous role for Everton thus far should be irrelevant to the question of whether we should have one.

It's been disastrous for a number of reasons, none of which has to do with whether that role, in theory, should exist.

I think most would acknowledge that it's a role that, done correctly, certainly has a place in modern football.

As long as Moshiri is involved, there are uphill battles to be fought on whether it can be implemented correctly, however,

Yes it seems that most clubs have a DOF but listening to Spurs fans about the man who has just left the club most were glad to see the back of him.

Maybe the Spurs fan who comes on here now and again could offer his opinion, if he hasn’t already done so.

 

[BNJ1878]

Dan Ashworth has nothing to do with choosing who Brighton's manager is.

I was as surprised at this as anyone else, but he did a great interview on BT Sport where he described what his responsibilities are and he made it clear that this doesn't include choosing the manager and that the owner/board do that bit.

Good interview. And yeah, that surprised me too.

I'll bet he has a list of suggested candidates for those that do decide.