Derby - Win, Lose or Draw ?

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Our home record against them is still poor even allowing for their referees.

It's not as utterly appaling as our away record against them but it's still not great.

It is. But if you take out the atkinson derby it doesn't look as bad in recent terms.

I think we should be going into this as optimistic as we have been for every other game. They have never been so poor, Moyes, despite his own limitations, will know this.
 
It is. But if you take out the atkinson derby it doesn't look as bad in recent terms.

I think we should be going into this as optimistic as we have been for every other game. They have never been so poor, Moyes, despite his own limitations, will know this.

That's fair enough, anyone expecting us to do anything at Anfield is kidding themselves but we've got results against them at Goodison before even with Moyes. A win wouldn't shock me.
 
confident we,l win this derby overall just think were as better team than them now but important jags and distin is the centre bk partership 2-0 to us!!!
 
confident we,l win this derby overall just think were as better team than them now but important jags and distin is the centre bk partership 2-0 to us!!!

We've had the more talented team for a few seasons. It just doesn't convert, though.
 
I always think our midfield disappears in derbies, leaving the defence too much to do. Also, Gerrard always seems more up for it and scores or creates. Our defence is uncertain enough these last few games without the RS having free runs at them.
Neither team is playing that badly at the moment, but failing to turn chances into goals and letting goals in that they shouldn't.

So, nullify Gerrard, play a midfield that will pick up runners and we have enough quality to score a goal or two. IMO we can not play Neville and Osman in centre mid. We need Distin. I'd love us to play 4-4-2 at home to these but we wont.

Kev and Jelly up front. Felli and Gibson centre park.

My money is also on an RS sything into Fellaini.
 
I always think our midfield disappears in derbies, leaving the defence too much to do. Also, Gerrard always seems more up for it and scores or creates. Our defence is uncertain enough these last few games without the RS having free runs at them.
Neither team is playing that badly at the moment, but failing to turn chances into goals and letting goals in that they shouldn't.

So, nullify Gerrard, play a midfield that will pick up runners and we have enough quality to score a goal or two. IMO we can not play Neville and Osman in centre mid. We need Distin. I'd love us to play 4-4-2 at home to these but we wont.

Kev and Jelly up front. Felli and Gibson centre park.

My money is also on an RS sything into Fellaini.

Bingo.

Doesn't matter (within reason) what personnel you bring into a Derby - whatever team wants it more will win it. You have to want to win it so badly you cant face coming off the pitch defeated.

Last time we had that fire in our bellies was under Joe.
 
I'd go for Jags and Distin for this. Don't 100% trust Heitinga. Not slating the lid, it's just an opinion. I will be gutted of we don't have Fellaini for this. Seeing him tear Allen a new one in midfield in front of a world audience would be nothing short of orgasmic.
 
Bingo.

Doesn't matter (within reason) what personnel you bring into a Derby - whatever team wants it more will win it. You have to want to win it so badly you cant face coming off the pitch defeated.

Last time we had that fire in our bellies was under Joe.

What about the 3-0 few seasons ago?
 
Moyes: W4 D6 L13

Only 17% win rate....compared with those even remotely in the job as long him - Catterick 31%; Kendall 30%.

Even allowing for them pulling ahead in terms of squad investment, that's a staggering failure.

You are one moaning bast*rd, FFS. Who could we get who can do a all rOund better job than Moyes. You are the worse type of fan and I use the word 'FAN' loosely. Certainly wouldn't label you a 'supporter'

Give me Moyes over 10,000 of you any day, posting moaning message after moaning message asif anyone gives a ****.
 
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