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Well that’s lacking ambition, we may as well have kept big Sam and saved 15milWhat? You’ve literally said you’d change managers every few seasons and we’ve seen how well that’s gone. Call me daft but I’d rather sit in 7th for 3 years rather than spin the wheel and see if we end up getting top 6 or dragged into a relegation battle.
Can probably be summarised by we lost games under Moyes because our players weren’t as good as the top ones. We’ve lost a lot more games since because our players are now even worse. I think people just believed there was a magic manager round the corner waiting to propel the likes of Osman Neville and Howard to challenge for CL places consistently, win trophies and win big games away from home. Those things only happen when you combine a top manager with top players (as Liverpool and Spurs have started doing). We replaced Moyes with a succession of mid table managers and they’ve bought poor players. I respect Moyes because he got the most out of the limited funds he had which can’t be said for his successors. What people wanted him to do though was just unrealistic given that he had a board selling his best players and the ones he kept were crocked by a freak injury season where we picked up 4 ACLs.
Imagine in a different world we had kept the 07-09 team intact. None of them had snapped their ACLs. Moyes was given Moshiri’s millions at exactly the same time that Barkley and Stones came through. I doubt he would have messed it up quite has badly as Martinez and Koeman did. We certainly would not have seen some of the clowns we have done in blue over the last few seasons, we wouldn’t have had players on tv criticising the manager, we wouldn’t have had players leaving training, grabbing penalties off each other, we wouldn’t have even worried about relegation at any point, we’d never have spent 45 mill on the Icelandic David Dunn, we wouldn’t have hired that slug Allardyce and we may wel have looked at a few seasons of European qualification and increased revenues.
He’s an absolute league above Martinez Koeman and Allardyce. It’s not even a comparison.
A poem for Davey Moyes: -
We didn’t realise how good we had it at the time,
when Pip was our captain with his trademark chip down the line,
ever since you left it’s been a struggle,
what was your great team is now a pile of rubble,
oh David Moyes we dearly miss you,
poor Mr Silva bit off more than he could chew.
Sometimes you don’t know just how ruddy good you’ve got it until it’s no longer there.
COYB!!!!!
oh how we miss taking a knife to a gunfight attitude...
Moyes was good here. At times we looked like we could challenge but lacked that extra bit of quality.
That’s the old Moyes though.Moyes back for me...
Passion & motivation the man loves this club...
He could do a job & would be back here as quick as you could say goodison park...
Pickford would be told to grow up in no uncertain terms....
Someone I know was at a corporate dinner with Moyes last year. He bemoaned the lack of a proper 20 a season striker and said he basically had all but signed Miroslav Klose, then he got injured. He thought we could have got into the champions league if he could have got that signing over the line.
I tend to agree.. If you go back to the war, we have only failed to finish outside of the top 5 once when one of our strikers has hit 20 league goals. That was Koemans season with Lukaku.. Moyes hit top 5, 3 times and top 6, 5 times without a 20 a season striker. He used what little money he had to try to sign a decent one, but was always shopping in the upper mid tier of the market (Beattie, Yak, Johnson, Saha etc). Shame Lukaku was a year later...
Anyway, so that's 3 world cup winning strikers we nearly signed in the last 25 years. Name them....
That’s the old Moyes though.
Would the current contemporary Moyes be the same?
Total agree, and that last match when he was applauded around Goodison made me vomit."I know exactly how Everton work".
Shat on the club after being given 11 years here - someone who could have been binned after two seasons here and his career in tatters.
A disgusting man who underlined how poor he was when he left.
Well that’s lacking ambition, we may as well have kept big Sam and saved 15mil
And all the top teams change managers if they aren’t successful, we should be no different.
And finishing 7th isn’t success.