2025/26 David Moyes

kiss the crest said:
Today's press conference, Moyes is a bit annoyed that he is being questioned on his comments after Newcastle and doesn't like the questions that Guilia Bould asked, he seemed to close her down quickly and basically say it is what it is.

Dyche beat Newcastle 3-0 with lesser player than we have now.

Moyes needs to change his mentality quickly otherwise he will be hounded out.

This is what i hated last time he was in charge, kept saying plucky Everton and knife to a gun fight etc.

I am bored
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Bear in mind when he talks about not being able to compete with better resourced clubs like Newcastle that he stood in front of Kenwright and condemned fans for wanting shut of him to get investment into the club.

He's a self-serving hypocrite who needs chasing.
 

Just watched his Bournemouth pre match presser to see how harsh he was on Bould and he was a bit prickly, but the thing that stood out for me was how effusive he was in his praise for the team at the beginning.
How they’ve done unbelievably well etc, just thought it was a bit OTT, but then I thought it kind of fits into his usual MO.
Maybe I’m looking for it as I’m not keen on him, but it just made me think it’s the poor old plucky Everton spiel again. We’ve had a couple of good results sure, but every game has been tight as and we’ve relied more on luck than guile to get any wins.
Pat the players on the head and tell them how great they’re doing while simultaneously talking up every team we face.
Then throw in cutting down journos like a Temu Fegie for asking uncomfortable questions.

GTF.
 
bicycleheader said:
Got tired of listening to his interviews about.....18yrs ago, but in fairness I do recall reading most of his comments were about the players after the Man U win

Personally I'm not surprised at a bad loss as we are not a great side and will have those games, but with that one comment, as with the cup loss he has basically said "hey guys, remember all those things you were sick to the back teeth of last time around?! Here ya go! "

Grrrr, fresh start soon please
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Yeah, I got so bored of finishing 5th and 6th and getting to cup finals and semi finals.
 

Saint Domingo said:
World has changed with the new owners for sure but even Jose Mourinho was talking about football heritage and little horses and that was when he was in charge of United and Chelsea winning trophies. It’s just what managers do.

If we gave managers better players results would improve. They’d improve more by that than us just asking them to change their mentality. If we had a manager failing to manage a top quality squad I could accept criticism a lot more but we give them an absolute pile of rubbish and then start battering them for saying games might be difficult in press conferences or that other teams are better than us.

It wouldn’t wash if we’d given Moyes or Dyche a top 6 squad but they can easily just turn around and point to no fit right backs, no quality striker, no depth at holding mid, one left back, no pace in the backline or midfield, and the squad is very injury prone. Dyche especially could point to being bottom of the league for net spend over 5 years.

If we ranked the squads in quality from 1 to 20 at the start of the season and took the manager out the equation then Everton’s would probably be in the bottom half behind the sky six, Newcastle, Villa, Palace, Forest, Brighton. Might be an argument over the bottom positions but you can see my point.

Moyes may well turn around at the end of the season with a top half finish and say what more can be expected given the squad he received.

It’s the same problem Everton have had for 30 years that we give the manager squads of a certain level and then expect significant continuous over performance. As soon as it doesn’t happen fans get annoyed.

It needs to start with sinking much more money into this squad and buying much better players with pace, technique, power, intelligence, leadership and resilience. It doesn’t start by moaning at the manager to ‘go for it more’ or being more positive in press conferences. It would be nice but doesn’t move the dial.
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Exactly. Newcastle had Tonali, Gordon, Schar and Willock on the bench. They would all start for us and be among our best players. Teams with better players and better squads beat teams with worse players and worse squads. The manager makes virtually no difference.
 
Lanolin said:
2 of our last 3 home games have been all but over by half time, against teams below us in the league. I can't quite get my head round the mentality of people saying 'ah well, what do you expect him to do?' about that type of performance and result.
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They were both quite random losses though. We didn't play badly against Spurs. We just conceded two goals from corners and failed to create. Against Newcastle we concede a goal from a set pieces after 2 minutes, then dominate the game for a period without creating anything, concede another poor goal due to individual errors, and then the third goal is an individual error. I don't think any of that is the manager's fault.
 
Lanolin said:
BUT BUT BUT. Come on, O'Brien was dropped for Garner and Keane kept his place. He hasn't been picked at centre half when we've had other options in any league game since Moyes took over, it's ridiculous to say we don't know because we absolutely do. Is Beto scoring less now than he was when DCL was playing? Certainly not to any noticeable extent. It's the same thing, it's a bit embarrassing to pretend otherwise.
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Keane has played well for the most part this season and there is absolutely nothing to suggest O'Brien would outperform him or JT.
 

bicycleheader said:
Don't see what that has to do with me not listening to his interviews after a few seasons nor disliking certain traits of his

I also enjoyed some of the moments of course
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Every manager grates after a period. I remember loving Roberto Martinez at first because he was so positive but it was ultimately all BS. It's best not to listen to interviews. They're an absolute waste of everyone's time.
 
Nymzee said:
We don't have anyone shining in the U21's.

Who do you think should be making the bench at the moment that isn't?
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He promoted several to the first team training squad 2-3 weeks ago, so he must think some have the capability or why do it.
If there’s two reserve keepers we may as well just reduce one of the subs as the chance of them playing is zero.
Do you think it’s better to have two reserve keepers as opposed to somebody who in an emergency could play outfield?
 
evertony said:
He promoted several to the first team training squad 2-3 weeks ago, so he must think some have the capability or why do it.
If there’s two reserve keepers we may as well just reduce one of the subs as the chance of them playing is zero.
Do you think it’s better to have two reserve keepers as opposed to somebody who in an emergency could play outfield?
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We regularly promote youth players to first team training whenever we have players missing through injury and just for experience. 2 keepers on the bench means nothing right now - there isn’t a single U21 player ready for PL football.
 
Nymzee said:
We regularly promote youth players to first team training whenever we have players missing through injury and just for experience. 2 keepers on the bench means nothing right now - there isn’t a single U21 player ready for PL football.
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So, again I’ll ask….would you rather two reserve keepers on the bench than an outfield player who could play in an emergency?
 

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