They are not flushed down the toilet , they are just sitting on the shelf waiting for a competent manager who knows what to do with them and brave enough to play them.
Intresting reading this morning, some of the journalist having a bit of ago at his team selection ect, suggest he hasn't got a lot of good will in the bank with them.
Not good for him at this stage of the season
It's up to him get some results or he will be gone soon enough
A lot if fans are getting frustrated with him.
This team has only played well in flashes all season,( after the first two games we havnt done much at all).looks stale and up to now he hasn't shown any inclination to change things around tactics wise or during the game.
In an ideal world he would get a couple of seasons , but he isnt doing himself any favours , he is losing the fans and it looks like the local press can sence it.
I think he will have a small window to change it around,
If we are getting sucked into the bottom places by Xmas,
I think the owners will pull the trigger.
Next few games we need a win or its going to get ugly.
It's like groundhog day with Everton such a draining club,
I watch teams like Bournemouth nowadays and think it must be nice to see a bit of excitement on the pitch instead of plodding along like us.
Not good for him at this stage of the season
It's up to him get some results or he will be gone soon enough
A lot if fans are getting frustrated with him.
This team has only played well in flashes all season,( after the first two games we havnt done much at all).looks stale and up to now he hasn't shown any inclination to change things around tactics wise or during the game.
In an ideal world he would get a couple of seasons , but he isnt doing himself any favours , he is losing the fans and it looks like the local press can sence it.
I think he will have a small window to change it around,
If we are getting sucked into the bottom places by Xmas,
I think the owners will pull the trigger.
Next few games we need a win or its going to get ugly.
It's like groundhog day with Everton such a draining club,
I watch teams like Bournemouth nowadays and think it must be nice to see a bit of excitement on the pitch instead of plodding along like us.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I sort of agree.
However, if this isn't sorted out in the next month or so I'd take the chance on replacing him.
Personally I hope he starts seeing sense and starts playing players that can help him and us get out of a downward spiral.
I'm happy in that circumstance to wait until the summer to get shut of him.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...think that's what I concluded with, tbh mate.
We're not far enough away from real trouble, though, and we haven't actually shown anything this year to earn the kind of confidence everyone seems to have that we will simply pull further away from it.
The games we've won have largely been down to the opposition not finishing their chances, and with the possible exception of Liverpool, we have finished every game on the back foot. There is total and complete inflexibility in tactics, and last night's subs were absolutely infuriating. What message is being sent out to Barry (hooked early yet again when he was far from the only problem), Dibling (sat on the bench while Dwight actual McNeil was sent on to replace an injured dribbler on the RW), and Aznou (not a sniff of first team footy this season despite an obviously struggling LB)? Every one of these players came with the caveat that they aren't the finished article, and rather than coaching or managing them to aid in their development he's either gone for chucking them in and hoping for the best, or leaving them to rot.
Didn't want Moyes in the first place. Bored of his crap already.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
I don't see that happening mid-season. Its not like I'm saying that I want Moyes long-term. I just think it more likely that the owners will see the season out and will find a better option in the summer who will match their standards.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
He won't do that though Dave because Sgt Major Moyes would have to admit he has made a mistake and we can't have that now can we.
Peter The Dog
Player Valuation: £8m
moyes has hit his glass ceiling.
unless things deteriorate into a relegation battle, he should be given the season.
in the meantime, i hope that the board are already starting to identify a replacement for next season.
unless things deteriorate into a relegation battle, he should be given the season.
in the meantime, i hope that the board are already starting to identify a replacement for next season.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The bigger picture has changed for Moyes: he sort of senses (he's said so) that fans have higher expectations than then he was here last but he's gambling his stock is so high that it'd take a a lot for the club to sack him.
On paper, last night's draw away to a team in decent early form isn't bad. But it's the way we lost our way under m`Oyes again this season and his refusal to use the resources he has that most people see now.
Expectations are massive now and Moyes is taking a hell of a gamble that he wont become a casualty of that.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I agree mate. He's full of himself. He's believing he's a grand old man of the game who's earned the right to take a resurgent club to...14th.
He isn't and he hasn't.
If he cant sense that, it's curtains for him.
Bryan+
Player Valuation: £35m
He hit that 10+ years ago when he spewed us for Man UTD and said so himself, he left us fighting for 6th, now look at the kip of this side. I half feel sorry for him - stability, stability, stability.
I pray he's not here beyond that 2 year contract, that's would be indefensible from the board.
At the moment that looks like to big an ask for him to change.
Genuinely can't see where the next 3 points comes from.
I hope TFG don't linger on this because if it continues past this month and into December we are in a relegation scrap ( again ) and instead of hiring a good progressive manager we would be looking for the next fire fighter off the rank.
Rinse & repeat.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Who's available that you'd want
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £20m
Marco Rose is available. Fairly exciting manager but could get you relegated as much as he could get you in Europe.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'd only sack `Moyes right now if someone like Iraola was available.
Iraola hasn't signed a contract extension yet and if they secured him for the summer I'd be happy with limping along under Moyes.
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