2025/26 David Moyes

That is literally what we were seeking. And he saved us from relegation last season and ensured we had not a single worry of relegation at any point whatsoever this season, which is the first time that’s been the case in like 6 years or something.

yeah, we would have liked a better end to the season, but just having a season with not one single thought of relegation is progress and many would have been happy to have at the start of the season. A season with no worry and a bit of stability
I just don't get this at all, the 2 seasons before this we finished 22 and 23 points clear of relegation. This year it was 10. And yet somehow we're supposed to believe this season was the first one in generations that we haven't been sweating until the last day?
 
Have you really been thinking about relegation for the last 6 years?

Haven't we finished closer to the relegated teams this year than last year?

There’s been two seasons recently where I’ve seriously thought about relegation. 21/22 with the run in under Lampard, 22/23 with the run in under Dyche.

I don’t know why the entire club seems obsessed with it. Forest and Spurs were both in one this season but I’d bet that both clubs will be talking about Europe next season and we’ll still be saying ‘it wasn’t that long ago this club was talking about relegation’ at every press conference when asked about targets for the season.
 
I just don't get this at all, the 2 seasons before this we finished 22 and 23 points clear of relegation. This year it was 10. And yet somehow we're supposed to believe this season was the first one in generations that we haven't been sweating until the last day?

At any point in the below seasons were you sweating about relegation?

25/26 - Yes / No
24/25 - Yes / No
23/24 - Yes / No
22/23 - Yes / No
21/22 - Yes / No
 
At any point in the below seasons were you sweating about relegation?

25/26 - Yes / No
24/25 - Yes / No
23/24 - Yes / No
22/23 - Yes / No
21/22 - Yes / No
Sweating? No. Last season for example there were times when relegation seemed like it may be possible but it was early enough in the season that it was way too early to be sweating about it.

Let's not rewrite this season as if we were in the top 4 all year and then fell away either, we were 14th a third of the way through the season, the reason we weren't worried that we were going to get sucked into a relegation battle was because we thought we'd improved the squad enough in the summer for it not to be an issue, not because we were playing so well that it wasn't on the radar.
 
Sweating? No. Last season for example there were times when relegation seemed like it may be possible but it was early enough in the season that it was way too early to be sweating about it.

Let's not rewrite this season as if we were in the top 4 all year and then fell away either, we were 14th a third of the way through the season, the reason we weren't worried that we were going to get sucked into a relegation battle was because we thought we'd improved the squad enough in the summer for it not to be an issue, not because we were playing so well that it wasn't on the radar.

I don't know about you, but a first season in 5 years where I haven't spent a single second worried we might go down was bloody nice.
 
There’s been two seasons recently where I’ve seriously thought about relegation. 21/22 with the run in under Lampard, 22/23 with the run in under Dyche.

I don’t know why the entire club seems obsessed with it. Forest and Spurs were both in one this season but I’d bet that both clubs will be talking about Europe next season and we’ll still be saying ‘it wasn’t that long ago this club was talking about relegation’ at every press conference when asked about targets for the season.
I think that is really a result of Moyes’ first spell here,the continual “dampening down”of expectation,knives to a gunfight,little old Everton perception portrayed to the media who lapped it up,our record against the top four sides particularly away from home where we could not even fluke a single win during his whole tenure due to the rabbits caught in headlights way he set us up in those games was really nothing short of laughable,I don’t think anything has changed unfortunately.
 
I don't know about you, but a first season in 5 years where I haven't spent a single second worried we might go down was bloody nice.
In it's own way yes it was nice, but as I said that's really the absolute least I expected after spending £100m odd net and bringing in another couple of players with buy options totalling £70m (including possibly the highest paid player we've ever had) rather than scratching round trying to bring in frees and crap loans and losing our best players as has often been the case in the period you're talking about. I'm not saying this to slate Moyes and say it's a disgrace or whatever, just that I can't get on board with the idea that this was better than we expected or that we should be grateful for the season we've had. It's possible to think we've had a disappointing season without frothing at the mouth and demanding everybody at the entire club be hung drawn and quartered.
 
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I think that is really a result of Moyes’ first spell here,the continual “dampening down”of expectation,knives to a gunfight,little old Everton perception portrayed to the media who lapped it up,our record against the top four sides particularly away from home where we could not even fluke a single win during his whole tenure due to the rabbits caught in headlights way he set us up in those games was really nothing short of laughable,I don’t think anything has changed unfortunately.

What you on about?

Dyche literally sat there and told us our club was no better then relegation fodder.

Then moyes came in and said everton are a top club that deserves to be challenging for Europe and more.

I know that were not happy with moyes but lets not rewrite history
 
I don't know about you, but a first season in 5 years where I haven't spent a single second worried we might go down was bloody nice.

Five years?

We had two years where it got scary.

We even had one season where we got a points deduction and everyone still thought we'd stay up.

Even last season when Dyche had us 17th, it was obvious how bad the three promoted teams were and going down was never a threat.
 
In it's own way yes it was nice, but as I said that's really the absolutely least I expected after spending £100m odd net and bringing in another couple of players with buy options totalling £70m (including possibly the highest paid player we've ever had) rather than scratching round trying to bring in frees and crap loans and losing our best players as has often been the case in the period you're talking about. I'm not saying this to slate Moyes and say it's a disgrace or whatever, just that I can't get on board with the idea that this was better than we expected or that we should be grateful for the season we've had. It's possible to think we've had a disappointing season without frothing at the mouth and demanding everybody at the entire club be hung drawn and quartered.

I mean it also should be added we spent £100m and only like £25m was actually on decent players.
 
Five years?

We had two years where it got scary.

We even had one season where we got a points deduction and everyone still thought we'd stay up.

Even last season when Dyche had us 17th, it was obvious how bad the three promoted teams were and going down was never a threat.

You are genuinely telling me that at no point in 2 of the last 5 seasons you ever were slightly concerned we'd go down?
 

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