2025/26 David Moyes

[JobForTheMoyes]

The league leaders had 70% possession and a generational talent on the bench. If you are defending in a low block, holding on and looking to pinch a goal on the break or from a set-pieces you don't go change the players/shape unless you have to. You have a very immature and poor understanding of the game.

Part of it is people get swayed by the ideas of pundits. Thing is, if these pundits were actually any good they would be managers and not TV guests.

 

[Toffeepot]

Just a load of old waffle And what ifs . The league leaders threw on a 16yr old. Liverpool constantly using a 17yr old.

Like you said yourself he doesn’t trust them defensively even at 1-0 down with 6 minutes to go and we conceded another goal anyway.
It’s why Moyes will never take a team that extra yard. To negative and it grips him like a vice.
Have we got the worst squad in the premier league???
Because we use the least subs

Both those players have played very little this season for Ars and RS

Would like to see more of our younger players too though

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Part of it is people get swayed by the ideas of pundits. Thing is, if these pundits were actually any good they would be managers and not TV guests.

I doubt proper fans get swayed by pundits, I've never known anyone say anything good about punditry in general so I've no idea how these people get swayed by their state the obvious opinions

 

[Zatara]

For the previous 15 years Utd had financial dominance of the league apart from a two year period when Blackburn had their moment. As soon as another club had financial parity and a good manager they won. Ferguson did a great job but let's not pretend it was a competitive league for most of his tenure from a financial perspective.

Ferguson built them up himself regularly introducing young talent into the team both from home and abroad.

Others have supported that with further points but he built and rebuilt sides over and over.

I think he should be applauded for picking what he thinks is his best team every week rather than appeasing some drips on the interweb.

Picking your best team and making subs when players are tired and resting players game to game would be more sensible.

You're completely ignoring the fact that we don't have a decent right back and O'Brien/Garner are our best options there. Garner is actually a better option but we lose more from the midfield than we gain.

Patterson performed better than Obrien and is dropped.

Err why would they start games if they're not first choice?

As I said;

Injuries
AFCON
Resting players
Performance

Having minutes on the pitch doesnt actually mean starting by the way

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

You really have a poor recollection Kev. Lucked out? He planned for the academy as soon as he got the job in the mid 80s. He foresaw that a good academy would give them a great base to build from. He sold Hughes, Ince and our very own Kanchelskis to make room for the youngster's to play and got absolutely hammered by the media for it. Sure he spent money too but so did Newcastle and Arsenal so he didn't do a Chelsea under Mourinho and spend spend spend in one go. If you think Mourinho was getting the better of him then sorry you're wrong. Ferguson was building his next Man Utd team at the time so was in transition (plus struggling to find a suitable keeper)

Mourinho won the league both of his first seasons but whatever.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Mourinho won the league both of his first seasons but whatever.

He brought the league with an open chequebook at a time when Man Utd was in transition and Arsenal were starting their slide. Then when Rooney and Ronaldo started hitting their peaks coupled with some excellent signings like Vidic etc Mourinho lost his effectiveness because Ferguson had prepared for the longer game whilst Mourinho is a short-term thinking manager.

 

[Swartzy]

People tend to biased toward the benefit of a change without considering the downside risks.

No, you have one group that believe Moyes can't do right, and you have one group that believe Moyes can't do wrong..

Than you have the mainstream that can see both points of view, give credit where credits due, but also get frustrated with certain aspects of his approach..

He could stick Barry in goal and Pickford as striker and you would wholeheartedly back the decision.

No person can be 100% without fault and Vice Versa..

 

[blue to the bone]

Do people not get tired of posting the same thing over and over every day!

 

[Zatara]

Because it's not an opinion I share Zat.

Let's look at these 5 players he's supposedly 'wasted' money on...

Dibling - He's the one I have concerns about. He certainly looks like he could be wasted money, but is only 19 so could turn things around.

Rohl - brought in as a squad player, has been used sparingly, but hasn't let anybody down when called upon as a squad player. It's not like we've been playing centre backs or strikers in midfield whilst he's been sat on the bench. It's fine. We also got him on 'tick' for a year.

Aznou - cost peanuts in the big scheme of things.

Alcaraz - Cost £12 million. Good buy, not getting in ahead of KDH, Garner or Gueye, for starters.

George - We haven't even bought him, nor are we obliged to.

Thats fair enough.

My perspective is quite simple on those;

Dibling; Had a season in the premier league with Southampon. We should have given him minutes before Ndiaye went to AFCON just to get up to speed and to see if he could be a replacement.

Rohl; I thought he was a poor signing due to his injury record. Not seen anything good in him apart from running around and after his best performance against Villa he was dropped.

Aznou: Performed against Sunderland but still not even given a cameo in the league

Alcaraz: Frequently moved out of position even after a motm performance or getting a goal or assist. Then after not performing on the wing hes dropped

George: Similar to Dibling has experience in the league and yet when we are crying out for pace on the counter hes not used, or used literally last minute.


I dont believe any of them have been treated fairly on merit nor have there been active measures to develop them.

Iroegbunam: Did well in Gana's absence at the AFCON then dropped

Patterson: Better RB performances than O'Brien giving the team better balance and yet dropped.

Armstrong: Kept on rather than loaned back to Preston and Moyes said he would only do that if he was going to be starting games. Window closes and then used out of position or benched.

There's not only one or two players this is happening with, its all the u23 aged players. I'd use Barry as an example as well but due to only having Beto...

 

[COYBL25]

Do people not get tired of posting the same thing over and over every day!

I find it quite soothing, almost like watching the fish in the fish tank at the dentists, before you go into have your teeth yanked out.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

No, you have one group that believe Moyes can't do right, and you have one group that believe Moyes can't do wrong..

Than you have the mainstream that can see both points of view, give credit where credits due, but also get frustrated with certain aspects of his approach..

He could stick Barry in goal and Pickford as striker and you would wholeheartedly back the decision.

No person can be 100% without fault and Vice Versa..

That’s a ludicrous thing to say. We all know that Barry is more of a utility anchor man while Gueye is better with the gloves.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I doubt proper fans get swayed by pundits, I've never known anyone say anything good about punditry in general so I've no idea how these people get swayed by their state the obvious opinions

You’d be surprised!

 

[Harryflashman]

If he gets us our 7th place trophy again, then I’m all in for Moyes!

I’m not a Moyes standard bearer but If you think back to when he was last here if that conference league had been a thing he’d likely have been Perceived as a huge success

 

[Marcus Kendall]

You’d be surprised!

Haha you're probably right actually, can imagine some numpties nodding along at what Gary Neville and Spit the RS are saying

 

[John from Bootle]

Ferguson built them up himself regularly introducing young talent into the team both from home and abroad.

Others have supported that with further points but he built and rebuilt sides over and over.



Picking your best team and making subs when players are tired and resting players game to game would be more sensible.



Patterson performed better than Obrien and is dropped.



As I said;

Injuries
AFCON
Resting players
Performance

Having minutes on the pitch doesnt actually mean starting by the way

Thats fair enough.

My perspective is quite simple on those;

Dibling; Had a season in the premier league with Southampon. We should have given him minutes before Ndiaye went to AFCON just to get up to speed and to see if he could be a replacement.

Rohl; I thought he was a poor signing due to his injury record. Not seen anything good in him apart from running around and after his best performance against Villa he was dropped.

Aznou: Performed against Sunderland but still not even given a cameo in the league

Alcaraz: Frequently moved out of position even after a motm performance or getting a goal or assist. Then after not performing on the wing hes dropped

George: Similar to Dibling has experience in the league and yet when we are crying out for pace on the counter hes not used, or used literally last minute.


I dont believe any of them have been treated fairly on merit nor have there been active measures to develop them.

Iroegbunam: Did well in Gana's absence at the AFCON then dropped

Patterson: Better RB performances than O'Brien giving the team better balance and yet dropped.

Armstrong: Kept on rather than loaned back to Preston and Moyes said he would only do that if he was going to be starting games. Window closes and then used out of position or benched.

There's not only one or two players this is happening with, its all the u23 aged players. I'd use Barry as an example as well but due to only having Beto...

We're not social services Zat. Patterson is crap, Gueye is better than Tim, Rohl appears to be fifth or sixth choice along with Alcaraz (no issue with that), and Dibling has been poor.

These players are being kept out of the team by better or more reliable players. It's up to them to change that, nobody else.