2025/26 David Moyes

He had one at Man Utd and got sacked in his first season.

Wasnt a winning Champions league team or squad thats for sure. They got knocked out in the last 16 under Ferguson.
That title winning squad consisted of tom cleverly chris smalling and danny welbeck. Arguably Fergusons greatest title achievement getting that squad over the line. They were certainly in decline. As louis van gaal jose mourhino and erik ten hag to name a few have found out.
 
United haven't come close to winning the league or champions league since Moyes was sacked and that includes serial winners like Mourinho, Van Gael etc so it's not like he butchered an amazing team. Ferguson won the league in the season before Moyes mainly thanks to Van Persie being fit for every single league game and the opposition being in transition - plus this was pre Pep, Klopp etc. Moyes failed of course but I think whoever went in would have had similar struggles. The older players who were once top level had dropped off yet their egos thought they were still elite and they wouldn't have played for another manager after Ferguson. Similar to Clough at Leeds the players didn't want to know after don Revie.
Bit unfair to blame Moyes for starting the rot at Utd isn’t it?
 
One of His biggest mistakes was getting rid of Ferguson back room team
And bringing in his own, Ferguson advised him against this.
Fellaini would have also been 100% on him, he was a good player, but surely you don’t from Fabregas to fellani. I’m sure he could have got 10 midfielders better than Fellaini and it’s would have had the finances and pull to get most of them
Fair point. Felliani had a pretty good career at United, Mourinho loved him but yes I take your point. Getting rid of the back room staff I could see both angles. He could have kept them and they might have resisted the way he wanted to operate (I appreciate it kind of worked out that way any way arguably due to the ego of older regressing once high level players) so I can understand why he wanted a clean slate conversely he could have kept them and the change would have evolved over time and it might have worked out better.
 
Of course there is but if you have a preconceived agenda then everything will be twisted to fit it. MAGA style.
You saying Moyes having an impossible task following SAF is a bit like Trumps problems being due to Biden?
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To be fair to Moyes, last night was game for the ages. I look forward to telling my grandchildren about the match when Everton beat the mighty, basically already relegated, injury decimated Burnley team, 2:0 at home.
A joyous 1st win at home for 3 months.
It will certainly go down in the anals of history.
Still seething.
 

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