David Moyes rules out any January transfer

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I disagree.

Whilst im not in the NEVILLE IS TOTAL GASH camp, I do feel personally we need somebody with a little bit more quality in there.

Maybe Hitlzebeefburger is the answer? Maybe we find that out "soon", but if not, it leaves us with IMO, a fairly injury prone Gibson, an ageing Neville and for all his talent on the ball, a lightweight Osman, Barkley is at Wednesday at the moment, learning his trade.

We really could do with a player with a little quality that isnt the wrong side of 35 and hasnt been out for nearly 3months.

I agree with the Keeper part tho, hes badly Adam.

In an ideal world, we would get :

Competition for Howard
Cover for Right Wing
CM
Cover for Jelavic

But thats just being greedy.

Ideally and as I said at the start of the Season, we just a few extra bodies.

Yep, new keeper, cover for Jela would be nice but I think we have options, also have options wide right as cover!

Id look at the midfield if Mofro went as we would be forced to change the dynamic of our system - but for me at the mo it's not required, Jan window is a poor window anyway and Gibbo is back, I'd much prefer Ross in the squad then some Castillo cannon fodder, it's ridiculous saying we need another midfielder when de hammer hasn't even got a run.
 
Complete bull?

What is? that Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs don't generate more money than us for the reasons you've already been given?

I don't think think the board are very good at marketing the club but even if they were they wouldn't be able to sell thousands of Everton shirts abroad because we're not successful enough and because of that we haven't got a large following around the world.

You can't sell anything if there's no demand for it.

Everton Season Tickets: £443‑£672

Liverpool Season Tickets: £725-£780

Spurs Season Tickets: £730‑£1,845

Arsenal Season Tickets: £985-£1955

Some Spurs fans are paying around 3x more than Everton fans for their season tickets etc, but you don't seem to think that explains why they might have a bit more money to spend than us.

I don't think the board do a great job at marketing us but even if they did it wouldn't generate enough to make a big diffence in our transfer policy.

You seem to like ignoring evidence that disagrees with your own agenda, but try not confuse that with reality.

Thank you sir. I don't agree with many of the things this board does, but to argue that a similar sized club as ours based in London (i.e. Spurs) wouldn't generate much higher matchday and corporate income than ours is simply insane
 
Yep, new keeper, cover for Jela would be nice but I think we have options, also have options wide right as cover!

Id look at the midfield if Mofro went as we would be forced to change the dynamic of our system - but for me at the mo it's not required, Jan window is a poor window anyway and Gibbo is back, I'd much prefer Ross in the squad then some Castillo cannon fodder, it's ridiculous saying we need another midfielder when de hammer hasn't even got a run.

Not being funny but what has the hammer ever done at previous clubs to make u think he's any use to a team challenging the top 4 other than offering a bit of back up off the bench??

If we're serious about maintaining a top 4 challange we need 2/3 players in January.

A CM player is a must...
And IMO Donovan and maybe even another striker.

If both our Belgians for example picked up injuries at the same time, all of a sudden we'd have a attacking 3 behind jelavic which would include both Naismith and guaye. I guarantee in that scenario we'd no longer be that attacking fluid team.

We are as always tbf 2/3 injuries away from being very average and 2/3 players away from being very complete.

Personally in a ideal and realistic world and if we were serious about challanging for 4th in January I'd like/and think we need to see....

Valdis ofoe deal sorted
Donovan perm deal.
Lewis holtby either done or sorted for summer.
And another striker come in.

That is how a big club with serious ambition would go about there January. We won't an will fall short.
 
Not being funny but what has the hammer ever done at previous clubs to make u think he's any use to a team challenging the top 4 other than offering a bit of back up off the bench??

If we're serious about maintaining a top 4 challange we need 2/3 players in January.

A CM player is a must...
And IMO Donovan and maybe even another striker.

If both our Belgians for example picked up injuries at the same time, all of a sudden we'd have a attacking 3 behind jelavic which would include both Naismith and guaye. I guarantee in that scenario we'd no longer be that attacking fluid team.

We are as always tbf 2/3 injuries away from being very average and 2/3 players away from being very complete.

Personally in a ideal and realistic world and if we were serious about challanging for 4th in January I'd like/and think we need to see....

Valdis ofoe deal sorted
Donovan perm deal.
Lewis holtby either done or sorted for summer.
And another striker come in.

That is how a big club with serious ambition would go about there January. We won't an will fall short.

Agreed that der Hammer hasnt been put through his paces yet mate, but whats the point of going out and getting someone until he has, i find that baffling, ive never been a big fan of his but im a keen admirer of David Moyes ability to get the best out of player, he obviously saw something and the lad seems keen. Hes not getting chances, simply because results nd preformences dictate that there is no need to change the team, while prob our second most influential midfielder is returning in a week or so. While we have the best young midfilder in the country possibly returning in Jan while we likely have a default recall. Im not as dismissive as Ossie as most seem to be either - prob the unsung hero of the season so far. There are a few players i can think of sticking to our current system who would improve us and i think your talking of north of 6 -10 mill, its not a burning need, like i said i would rather respond and get quality and the right player in the summer, rather then react and get "a body in" in a limited inflated market.

Cant disagree with the Don - hes quality - would love it. You can wind yourself up about possible injuries but that goes for every team in the league, how good are Liverpool without Suarez, Spurs without Bale etc - injuries are going to happen as will suspensions. This is the most balanced squad with a lot of depth, variance and adaptabilty that i can remember for beards. Have a good look at it and ask yourself, what positions can each player play. We're all partial to a signing, im no different - i just dont see the burning need and cant understand the desperation, fear or fury some convey in this thread. i did last Jan but have massively kicked on. If we brought no one in i wouldnt be bothered in the least. In fact id prefer to wait untill next summer.

Either side of the debate we will find out soon enough, we've had a couple of months without Gibson, Belg Kev is out today, Mofro is going to be missing in a week or two (already missed a few games for us). Lets see how the squad fares. Be interesting to see today if Oviedo, Naismith or maybe even Kennedy can take a chance with Belg Kev missing - there you go three options.
 
whilst we have excellent fans it is sad to say the majority of us are easily pleased with mediocrity imagine the RS or Spurs or arsenal being told year after year they have to sell first to buy their fans would be in uproar shame what Kenwright has done neuturing the seals

Mate, it's all relative. The 'fans' of the clubs you named are up in arms already and they've all spunked big money on players on a regular basis ( you don't need a list as there's plenty of them) .... two of them change managers like we change socks. If that's what you want then I'd have thought it was obvious by now that over the last 40 years that isn't Evertons 'way'.
This lame old phrase about Evertonians accepting mediocrity is just plain rubbish - there's a huge difference between calculated realism and blind optimism. How many times do people need to be reminded that the Club can only spend within their means - if you ain't got it you can't spend it......I'd love to nip out and treat myself to a new Maseratti because I should have one and the fella up the road has one - but I don't have the dabs so I ain't having one. Football is no different. Just like the bank won't give me £100K for the wheels, they won't give Everton big bucks for players. Unless we get a multi millionaire to invest in a plaything then not much will change....and that is fact.
 
And didn't Arse sell RVP and Fabregas and Song......and Spurs sold Modric and Van Der Vaart.....and the ****e sold Xavi, Mascerano and Torres.......but, yes of course their fans wouldn't accept what "some Evertonians" take up the arse every year...buying to sell.
 
Complete bull. Not going to get in arguments, but this club is ran dreadfully, using London factor, success factor ( the one that counts) what other factors can we use to excuse the shoddy running of the club. Not going to get into it because it will be blue kipper all over again. Just don't use lame excuses, for failure in the marketing of he club.

I don't think anyone is arguing there's not shoddy parts of Everton business-wise.....but you have to spend within your means. show me a club who doesn't sell to buy....with the exception of Chelsea and City who have untold wealth?
 
Spurs, Arse and Newcastle have oodles of quality players coming back from injury (several or eight players each) to suggest we don,t need to do something in this transfer window is unthinkable.
 
And he does not expect major reinforcements in January. Moyes said: “I’ll maybe use the loan market, but I’d be surprised if here were any serious purchases.â€￾

Todays paper Daily Star

Edit: IMO there will be two loan signings, hitzelsperger not extended.
 
Ok I listened to rob elstone the other Tuesday, it just seemed excuse after excuse to me. Not going to get in some protracted arguments, not got the time or the inclination.
 
Ok I listened to rob elstone the other Tuesday, it just seemed excuse after excuse to me. Not going to get in some protracted arguments, not got the time or the inclination.

And thats all its ever been since day one and will forever be the case under this lot, i remember one of bills very 1st quotes after taking charge with regards to a finance type question which i soon come to learn that it was his take on operation Dumb the club and expectation down, ...read "Such a shame that are Neighbours are liverpool" :dodgy: knew then this aint gonna be what we all thought it was , 12 long years on nothings changed regarding board matters

But hey , Dont even think about questioning elstone mate , put the custard pie away
 
Mate, it's all relative. The 'fans' of the clubs you named are up in arms already and they've all spunked big money on players on a regular basis ( you don't need a list as there's plenty of them) .... two of them change managers like we change socks. If that's what you want then I'd have thought it was obvious by now that over the last 40 years that isn't Evertons 'way'.
This lame old phrase about Evertonians accepting mediocrity is just plain rubbish - there's a huge difference between calculated realism and blind optimism. How many times do people need to be reminded that the Club can only spend within their means - if you ain't got it you can't spend it......I'd love to nip out and treat myself to a new Maseratti because I should have one and the fella up the road has one - but I don't have the dabs so I ain't having one. Football is no different. Just like the bank won't give me £100K for the wheels, they won't give Everton big bucks for players. Unless we get a multi millionaire to invest in a plaything then not much will change....and that is fact.

I know what your saying mate but surely for a club of our size and were we actually are in the table surely expecting even £4-5 mil for a player isnt too much to ask? its true the likes of spurs, RS and arsenall have sold players but the difference is all 3 of them are able to still buy WITHOUT selling they have only sold as bigger clubs have come in for their players and they wanted to leave, the modric of last year will be felli this year get champs league and i'll stay dont and a big club come in for me im off imo
 
Moyes always tries to play down expectations. I'd imagine that the deal for Ofoe will be resurrected unless Moyes sees enough in Hitzlsperger to give him a deal until the end of the season. Barkley will be back before long and wanting games. So the only area where we might be short of bodies is up front. Davey could decide that Anichebe, Naismith and Vellios offer enough cover for Jelavic. Where would a new signing get into our side? There are very few places that could be improved unless we could bring in someone special, which means that we'd only be looking for people to flesh out the squad in case of injury.
 
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