Current Body of work - Ancelotti and Moyes

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I'll say this for Moyes: he has West Ham getting consistently good results right now - the kind of consistency that gets a team a top four placing. He has done amazingly well this season. However, his ceiling is a lot lower than that of Magnifico. If Carlo gets a team top four, I'd wager a title challenge would be on the cards within three years. With Moyes, the top four finish would, in all likelihood, be an end in itself.
 
Today's result - in the bigger scheme of things - is a good result for us. While the Hammers are fantastically consistent, Spurs are a much bigger danger to us. I could see us hauling in West Ham - we still have to play them again, too - but we might find Spurs on a run with a fit Harry Kane a bigger danger. It's possible Spurs are in a Mourinho death spiral now, but it's just as likely they string a few wins together and get back in the mix. What today does tell us, though, is we need to be beating Spurs at home, just like West Ham did. We need to put them out of the running and get ourselves properly back in the thick of it, because one win over Liverpool is a mere stepping stone, not a final destination in and of itself.
 
Don't know if I should even dignify this thread with a comment.

Moyes is doing a great job at WHU and personally I think that's great, as they're a proper club with a great fanbase and a tradition of football excellence who, like us, have deserved more success over the years. In many ways he's the perfect manager for them - he's good at wheeling and dealing at that sort of area in the transfer market, he knows how to build a team from the back line, and he's good at getting the best out of players who have something to prove.

Carlo's doing a solid job for us. We're competing against the big teams in a way that past managers could only dream of. That, for me, is the most pleasing thing. I truly believe that Ancelotti is changing the mentality of the club instead of just trying to go out an park the bus whenever we play one of the supposedly big clubs. We are still a work in progress and I think another transfer window will see us take another jump forward.

The grass is not always greener. We stick with what we have because, frankly, we aren't going to get better than Don Carlo. The project is still in its infancy and we need to see it through.
 
I'll say this for Moyes: he has West Ham getting consistently good results right now - the kind of consistency that gets a team a top four placing. He has done amazingly well this season. However, his ceiling is a lot lower than that of Magnifico. If Carlo gets a team top four, I'd wager a title challenge would be on the cards within three years. With Moyes, the top four finish would, in all likelihood, be an end in itself.
I always felt what held back Moyes here was finances. I think West Ham have more cash than we ever did when he was here. They also have more draw due to being in London.

It will be interesting in the longer term to see how a managerial model can compete with a better financed DOF model. I remember the best managers, like Sir Bobby, could outperform bigger clubs on a smaller budget when they had control and stability.
 
Having posted on the Carlo thread earlier , defending him over tonight's performance , and previously.
I would appreciate a bit more objectivity from some responders to me reinvigorating this post.
We are , I think , 7 points behind West ham (albeit with a game in hand) , but they have a much better goal difference.
I accept that Carlo gives us a much greater pull for bringing in better players , and is probably better for the club in the long term.
However having brought in James , Allan , Doucorre , and Godfrey (all really good additions) , who thought that we would be in this position ?.
Granted we have been really unlucky with injuries , decisions etc.. Thoughts ?
 
Having posted on the Carlo thread earlier , defending him over tonight's performance , and previously.
I would appreciate a bit more objectivity from some responders to me reinvigorating this post.
We are , I think , 7 points behind West ham (albeit with a game in hand) , but they have a much better goal difference.
I accept that Carlo gives us a much greater pull for bringing in better players , and is probably better for the club in the long term.
However having brought in James , Allan , Doucorre , and Godfrey (all really good additions) , who thought that we would be in this position ?.
Granted we have been really unlucky with injuries , decisions etc.. Thoughts ?
buddy this is gutsy self vault and i applaud ur ego for doing this. i look forward to results please can i suggest going back thru thread and doing some wow like emojis on buddies that disagree with u at time.
 
The group stage of the Champions League is not the Champions League. The whole competition is the Champions League.

And UEFA cheated us. Collina refereed in a bizarre biased manner. Which was totally out of character

It was the third qualifying round, note the word qualifying. A World Cup qualifier isn’t the World Cup.
 
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