The amount of ducks for England this year must be absolutely enormous. Feels like there is at least a couple every innings.
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BigMick
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You might be right about the spinning options Tim. I will say, though, that Parkinson has developed into a very accurate leg spinner who bowls very few bad balls, and still manages to get batsmen out on unresponsive pitches, as we've seen in some of Lancs' games this season.
Unfortunately, he can't bat and his fielding is mediocre even by county standards, and it's unknown whether he'd be as successful against the better quality batsmen there are in test cricket. Until he plays we won't ever know.
He certainly couldn't be any worse than Moeen was yesterday. He looked like the part-time bowler he once was.
I don't think they can accomodate a spinner who is a genuine no.11 until Stokes comes back. If they can have Stokes and Woakes in the side, then they can balance it. Until then I think you have to persist with Moeen.
I've not actually seen that much of Parkinson in red ball cricket, but he was very accurate in the ODI's. I do think it's easier to for a spinner to perform under Morgan (or Stokes who stood in for him!) though because he's such a good captain and there's far more belief in that dressing room.
England can't afford a long tail at the minute because the batting is extremely unreliable. I don't know how they fix that. if anything, I think the bowling is missing Archer more than a better spinner tbh.
BigMick
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Lancs in big trouble at tea. Notts have glided to 61-1 with Duckett ominous on 41no. The only wicket was Slater bowled by a beauty from Balderson. No Mahmood for Lancs - injured side, so the attack which looked so potent and well balanced just a few weeks ago now looks threadbare, consisting of the medium pace of Bailey, Lamb and Balderson, plus a bit of part-time spin from Wells. I suspect we'll see a bit of Bohannon in this innings.
Earlier Lancs were all out for 168, indebted to some fine shots from the injured Croft (24), and Lavelle, last out having a swing at Fletcher for a fluent 32.
Notts 165 ahead with 9 wickets left.
Earlier Lancs were all out for 168, indebted to some fine shots from the injured Croft (24), and Lavelle, last out having a swing at Fletcher for a fluent 32.
Notts 165 ahead with 9 wickets left.
BigMick
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Agree.
big nev lookalike
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Only one team wanted to win today and it wasn’t England.
big nev lookalike
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I’ve only just realised Sussex are playing today…Middlesex 327-0 just after tea.Robson and Stoneman both with 150+.
Well done to India. Quality over the last 3 days.
But to lose by 150 after getting a 99 run lead on first innings, is quite something.
Not much they can really do with selection with the injuries to bowlers and Stokes unavailable. They were just outplayed in both areas in the second innings. The bowling was completely toothless, and the batting, bar the openers, was pretty woeful. The way they have batted under pressure suggests anything other than 5 nil would be a surprise in the winter. The only score they've made this summer was in reply to 78 all out....
But to lose by 150 after getting a 99 run lead on first innings, is quite something.
Not much they can really do with selection with the injuries to bowlers and Stokes unavailable. They were just outplayed in both areas in the second innings. The bowling was completely toothless, and the batting, bar the openers, was pretty woeful. The way they have batted under pressure suggests anything other than 5 nil would be a surprise in the winter. The only score they've made this summer was in reply to 78 all out....
India have been very good but England have thrown away two tests in this series
I don't think there are many options out there who are ready to play test cricket. England are missing two top players in Archer and Stokes and the balance of the team and the bowling isn't right. They will be struggling to find the right balance until both are available again, and that might be after the Ashes.
I would give Jimmy a rest next week, but that's just because I think he looked knackered yesterday. It's not because I think there's someone out there ready to step up.
neil999
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I've no idea about county cricket tbh, but we seem to have quite a few older players who we rely on...
With each test match that goes by, we seem to come up with a different problem. We've had first three batsmen not scoring runs. We've had bowlers who can't get tailenders out. Now, at this late stage in proceedings we have a middle-order who can't score runs. Wonder what Old Trafford will bring?
BigMick
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I think we have to accept that India are currently a better team than a Stokes-less England. They won against the odds in Australia and are on the brink of winning over here despite losing the 3rd test, after a which a lot of people prematurely wrote them off.
England had chances in both games they lost but weren't good enough to take them. They did what England couldn't do in the 2nd innings: kept the pressure on, stayed patient, and seized their opportunity when it came.
England had chances in both games they lost but weren't good enough to take them. They did what England couldn't do in the 2nd innings: kept the pressure on, stayed patient, and seized their opportunity when it came.
100 for 1 then I predicted we do collapse - get Parkinson in drop Ali for starters -Overton lacs 10 miles of pace....