Lee Carsley...most underappreciated midfielder we'd had in 20 years. We still aren't "right" since he's been gone.
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Lee Carsley...most underappreciated midfielder we'd had in 20 years. We still aren't "right" since he's been gone.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Not really, but anyone who is easily knocked off the ball can't play that position, you don't have to be Vinnie Jones but you need to be strong and also mentally equipped to take the team forward.
Actually thinking about it for SA against the likes of Spain and Brazil Pienaar did well, so maybe it's Moyes who is stifling the side by playing the percentages again.
kenada_blue
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We've mentioned that before, Pienaar moving into the middle....
Who do you stick on the left wing? Gosling?
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Well that's the thing isn't it. We need to move players around to get the best out of the team. It's in a mess, how long has it been now where we just haven't known out best eleven?
FC Brugge
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Just a point of looking around a bit. Look at Kompany, I'd reckon he could fit that role good and he only cost what 5m as well? i reckon there's plenty of players damn well good enough to fill the position we need.
for example... Biglia (Anderlecht). Argentinian CM, good passing, goes forward, tries stuff, helps out back, and i doubt he'd cost more than 5m really
Dutch leagues, French League, fcuk it even norwegian leagues have the type of player we want, surely we can fork out 5m to find one that's good enough..
for example... Biglia (Anderlecht). Argentinian CM, good passing, goes forward, tries stuff, helps out back, and i doubt he'd cost more than 5m really
Dutch leagues, French League, fcuk it even norwegian leagues have the type of player we want, surely we can fork out 5m to find one that's good enough..
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Well it's up to the manager, so I would rather not speculate on players we have not been directly linked at from the manager himself.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Spot on. Apparently he was 'woeful' though.
Yeah I thought he was.
I thought he had no passing ability.
He pointed a lot
Chased shadows a lot
And his last season he was a liability.
But he scored against the [Poor language removed] so he's beyond criticism.
Make no mistake Lee Carsley may well have been god in the eyes of some, but not in mine. We never improved as a side with him in the team, and we certainly have not missed him since he went.
For example his last season we came 5th and Semi's of Carling Cup. Since we lost him we came 5th and Final of FA Cup.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's that good?
Pity £15M was pissed up against the wall with Fellaini. He is a *character* though with that hair.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
He's that good?
Pity £15M was pissed up against the wall with Fellaini. He is a *character* though with that hair.
Well jury is still out for me with Fellaini.
I would expect him though to take control of a game considering he cost that much.
I cant believe we are still talking about Carlsey, its 2008 all over again, ffs.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
I never brought him up.
Yesterday's score is going to bring out all kinds of old demons mate. It's all good, as long as it doesn't get nasty...no need for that.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Yesterday's score is going to bring out all kinds of old demons mate. It's all good, as long as it doesn't get nasty...no need for that.
But we are a better side without Carsley, maybe not a better squad, but certainly a better side.
bluebastardo
Player Valuation: £40m
We need more positions filled than just midfield to be fair m8 .
Moyes is fastly becoming hypocritical in his transfer policies and assessment of our youth system .
We have a situation where it seems Moyes valuation of players differs immensely with the fans .
The same players are being played week in week out , and are never dropped .
This is possibly because Moyes feels we don't have adequate replacements .
If this is the case , then it's high time Moyes started to look deeper at our substitute options , and make sure that if we are to have a bench of substitutes , then they will get used .
Osman stands out like a sore thumb in our midfield , yet Moyes insists on using him in the same position time and time again . He is regularly substituted , yet still gets a starting place in the team . We have lots of options for the right wing , but they are rarely used .
Hibbert gets constant abuse from the fans , but we really don't have too many options for cover at right back , so this stands out as a position we need to strengthen .
Central defense is another position we need to enforce .
Rodwell and Neville aren't up to the job , so we need to bring in another few bodies .
We also need cover for left back . If Lescott leaves , or is injured , we have no cover .
Defensive midfield is Neville . I don't think he is good enough . Others think he is . We still need another DM in my opinion . Why is Neville never dropped ? Because we don't have cover ?
Pienaar can play on the right . Why not try Osman on the left ? If it works , we don't need to buy another midfielder / winger . We have 2 midfielders in Cahill and Fellaini where Moyes is unsure which role suits each best . A decision needs to be made here , and someone needs to be on the bench , and a rotation system started with our midfielders untill we find the best solution .
Our striker options are thin on the ground with injuries and players who have suffered injuries .
Jo has potential , but I don't see him being able to play loan striker .
Saha is class , but injury prone . Yakubu is returning from injury , and Vaughan will never be given a run out , nor will Anichebe so why keep them in the squad to rot ?
We have an inconsistent goalkeeper too , who never gets dropped .
Any thoughts on what our best 11 is , and where they would play ?
I would play this :
.......................Howard / ????
Hibbert/??? .......Yobo/Jags ........Lescott/??? .....Baines/????
Pienaar/???? ......Arteta/???? ......Fellaini......Osman/????
.............Saha .........Cahill/Yakubu
Question marks represent possible transfer needs .
Moyes is fastly becoming hypocritical in his transfer policies and assessment of our youth system .
We have a situation where it seems Moyes valuation of players differs immensely with the fans .
The same players are being played week in week out , and are never dropped .
This is possibly because Moyes feels we don't have adequate replacements .
If this is the case , then it's high time Moyes started to look deeper at our substitute options , and make sure that if we are to have a bench of substitutes , then they will get used .
Osman stands out like a sore thumb in our midfield , yet Moyes insists on using him in the same position time and time again . He is regularly substituted , yet still gets a starting place in the team . We have lots of options for the right wing , but they are rarely used .
Hibbert gets constant abuse from the fans , but we really don't have too many options for cover at right back , so this stands out as a position we need to strengthen .
Central defense is another position we need to enforce .
Rodwell and Neville aren't up to the job , so we need to bring in another few bodies .
We also need cover for left back . If Lescott leaves , or is injured , we have no cover .
Defensive midfield is Neville . I don't think he is good enough . Others think he is . We still need another DM in my opinion . Why is Neville never dropped ? Because we don't have cover ?
Pienaar can play on the right . Why not try Osman on the left ? If it works , we don't need to buy another midfielder / winger . We have 2 midfielders in Cahill and Fellaini where Moyes is unsure which role suits each best . A decision needs to be made here , and someone needs to be on the bench , and a rotation system started with our midfielders untill we find the best solution .
Our striker options are thin on the ground with injuries and players who have suffered injuries .
Jo has potential , but I don't see him being able to play loan striker .
Saha is class , but injury prone . Yakubu is returning from injury , and Vaughan will never be given a run out , nor will Anichebe so why keep them in the squad to rot ?
We have an inconsistent goalkeeper too , who never gets dropped .
Any thoughts on what our best 11 is , and where they would play ?
I would play this :
.......................Howard / ????
Hibbert/??? .......Yobo/Jags ........Lescott/??? .....Baines/????
Pienaar/???? ......Arteta/???? ......Fellaini......Osman/????
.............Saha .........Cahill/Yakubu
Question marks represent possible transfer needs .
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