Match Thread Chelsea 2-0 Everton. Sat Dec 13th. 3pm

[Kevsleftpeg]

Yeah, we're doing okay. So what? The point is: the last few seasons are not normal seasons by which we should be judging progress. They are seasons when we were in complete crisis and financial meltdown because of our ownership. We are no longer in that situation. So, we're doing better than last year. So what? We should be after spending 120m and acquiring Jack Grealish. Are we doing so much better that we should stick with the current manager next summer? I would say no - but I would also be the first to say we should stick with him if he overachieves this season - which would be Europe for me. I see no reason to stick with him if we finish, say, 12th - which is around where I expect us to be come May.

The reason to stick with him is he has a track record of finishing top 6 with us.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Of course. I suspect the fans are a little bit ahead of the owners on Moyes, though. We know what he is and isn't capable of. The owners might be very satisfied with him, and mid-table might be fine for them this season. If they are, I think they'll prove to be transitional owners - necessary for stabilising us, but bereft of real ambition, and whose main intention is to flip the club (stadium) when the opportune moment comes.

Some people convince themselves that these owners will sack if Moyes is not top half. I see no evidence for that. As keen as I am to see a new manager in the summer backed by serious ambition, I strongly suspect Moyes will hang on as these guys are happy with nursing their investment in mid-table obscurity. If they are truly ambitious, I think they'll make a change in the summer or risk being very disappointed with Moyes in time.

What a load of twaddle.

 

[Eggs]

Yeah, we're doing okay. So what? The point is: the last few seasons are not normal seasons by which we should be judging progress. They are seasons when we were in complete crisis and financial meltdown because of our ownership. We are no longer in that situation. So, we're doing better than last year. So what? We should be after spending 120m and acquiring Jack Grealish. Are we doing so much better that we should stick with the current manager next summer? I would say no - but I would also be the first to say we should stick with him if he overachieves this season - which would be Europe for me. I see no reason to stick with him if we finish, say, 12th - which is around where I expect us to be come May.

…..the game is about opinion, fortunately I expect the people who matter have a significantly different opinion than you.

 

[blue1948]

I thought we played well enough to get at least a draw out of the game. But for some rank bad defending and inability to score we controlled the game for the most part. Even though some of our players were awful, ie. Barry and Alcaraz, my god.

Alcaraz I agree but Barry never got a decent ball .This is why all this we need a CF is rubbish ,we never play to them ,out to the wings and then the odd good centre but not most ,we were atrocious today crossing the ball . Alcaraz has had us kecks down ,two good touches and the most stupid back pass this season ,never mind though he raised his hand and his reaction time is off the scale bad.

 

[TheBigMan]

We will get picked off by the so called better sides like today, we played well in spells, if Grealish squared it, 1-1, if he finishes that other chance he puts wide where back in game etc, we also had other moments. We have ago more now which leaves us open , we all know we have issues at fullback, up top and we could improve other areas aswell but it's much better than previous seasons.
Moyes will/has steadied the ship, whether he can take it further is another thing.

 

[Glasshalffull]

We need line up decisions to be taken away from Moyes.



Sorry but no one can defend moyes today especially after saying KDH was feeling his hamstring before the game

Thats the cherry on a poop pie.

Soz, pal, but just blatant after the eventism. KDH feels his hamstring slightly, gets selected, and a scores 2 to get us a draw or win. Appalling decision by Moyes, then? Easy to sneer from behind the barricades after the event and when your judgement carries zero consequences.

 

[Blue Roo]

This will be the last time - hopefully - that I will agree with this sentiment. We are clearly in a squad-building phase, but we HAVE to be building a squad that can handle Europe. Otherwise, we've no future as a club. Europe will likely be a year too soon, but if we do what we need to do this summer and next, then Europe needs to be the baseline for this club.

Gotta think also that some of what is holding em back now leads to strengths later. JOB and Garner will better for playing across positions.
JOB played LB for Ireland, he's played everywhere this season; same Garner.
We're looking at KDH replacing Gana and Tim and Rohl as options.
Dibling been held back but maybe he'll be better for it when the time comes.
Its only 3 positions now (St, RB, LB) + maybe Grealish replacement. A long way in a short time from the better performers being McNeil and Myko.
Right signings in summer and reckon we're there.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

Jarrad Branthwaite fit and in the squad instantly transforms us. His link up play with Grealish will be substantial. Add a healthy Rohl into the mix and things look much better.

 

[Bluelenny1984]

Yeah, we're doing okay. So what? The point is: the last few seasons are not normal seasons by which we should be judging progress. They are seasons when we were in complete crisis and financial meltdown because of our ownership. We are no longer in that situation. So, we're doing better than last year. So what? We should be after spending 120m and acquiring Jack Grealish. Are we doing so much better that we should stick with the current manager next summer? I would say no - but I would also be the first to say we should stick with him if he overachieves this season - which would be Europe for me. I see no reason to stick with him if we finish, say, 12th - which is around where I expect us to be come May.

You sir talk utter !

 

[Ferguson1878]

bad day all round today , not half looking forward to arsenal though

 

[Sharpies volley]

Alcaraz I agree but Barry never got a decent ball .This is why all this we need a CF is rubbish ,we never play to them ,out to the wings and then the odd good centre but not most ,we were atrocious today crossing the ball . Alcaraz has had us kecks down ,two good touches and the most stupid back pass this season ,never mind though he raised his hand and his reaction time is off the scale bad.

I don't know why we have to persist with a big lumbering centre forward. We need someone with more mobility and a forward line with the ability to interchange.

 

[D. Amokachi]

We have no fullbacks so it isn’t surprising that we get best by teams with quality players like Newcastle and Chelsea. I don’t think a big inquest is necessary.

 

[Thesouthallarms]

it’s the hope that kills you , even tho it’s the most in “control” of a game we’ve been at the bridge in as long as I can remember still a routine win for them as it always is there, still a great day out , onto arsenal up the toffes

 

[witchdoc187]

People calling for Moyes head cos we were unfortunate to lose to a team that is light years ahead of ours with a depleted squad. Laughable. Also, did I imagine cucarrella going in 2 footed on someone today the little rat?

 

[Wat Tyler]

1994

Shameful.