Big Dunc - what a legend

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davek said:
First of all, he's no legend.

Secondly, you're basing your view of him as our next manager(!!!) on the ground that some people said he was a good coach.

Great. Personally, I base my belief on whether someone's good at something if they actually have experience doing it. He hasn't and needs to get it.

The thought that this feller just has to wait until Martinez leaves to get the job is alien to me. How is that justified?
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What part of coaching Everton U18s and the Everton first team do you not classify as coaching?

Colin Harvey got the Everton managers job and he had no managerial experience, besides his coaching experience at Everton.

The game has changed mate.

Ferguson as head coach working under a director of football could be the kick up the backside our club needs.
 

The Equaliser said:
He obviously has a great affinity with the club which is big plus point, but manager ?? He's got a lot to prove before he can even make a short list.

He needs to go out and show what he can do elsewhere first. Being sentimental about former players because they get the club doesn't necessarily mean they would do a good job, and in general they don't.
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Not necessarily. Garry Monk is a success at Swansea.

Sometimes you 'KNOW' when you have a good potential manager and they just need a shot.

He'll be Everton manager some day.
 
BoysInBlue said:
Not necessarily. Garry Monk is a success at Swansea.

Sometimes you 'KNOW' when you have a good potential manager and they just need a shot.

He'll be Everton manager some day.
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There are exceptions - that's why I said 'in general'.

Maybe he will but it would be better for him never mind everyone else if he proves himself elsewhere first.
 

BoysInBlue said:
What part of coaching Everton U18s and the Everton first team do you not classify as coaching?

Colin Harvey got the Everton managers job and he had no managerial experience, besides his coaching experience at Everton.

The game has changed mate.

Ferguson as head coach working under a director of football could be the kick up the backside our club needs.
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No experience as a manager. You need it. It's as simple as that. You want someone to learn on the job? Just because he was a hero of yours?

Wiser heads should and will prevail. As said, if Ferguson wants to manage Everton, fine. Let him go out in the world and manage...not an unreasonable request to ask of anyone wanting to be Everton manager. Stubbs has gone out and done it and achieved reasonable progress. Why wouldn't he be considered by you as next Everton manager?
 
davek said:
No experience as a manager. You need it. It's as simple as that. You want someone to learn on the job? Just because he was a hero of yours?

Wiser heads should and will prevail. As said, if Ferguson wants to manage Everton, fine. Let him go out in the world and manage...not an unreasonable request to ask of anyone wanting to be Everton manager. Stubbs has gone out and done it and achieved reasonable progress. Why wouldn't he be considered by you as next Everton manager?
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Didn't celebrate goals enough
 
davek said:
No experience as a manager. You need it. It's as simple as that. You want someone to learn on the job? Just because he was a hero of yours?

Wiser heads should and will prevail. As said, if Ferguson wants to manage Everton, fine. Let him go out in the world and manage...not an unreasonable request to ask of anyone wanting to be Everton manager. Stubbs has gone out and done it and achieved reasonable progress. Why wouldn't he be considered by you as next Everton manager?
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So you would have Stubbs?
 

BoysInBlue said:
Not necessarily. Garry Monk is a success at Swansea.

Sometimes you 'KNOW' when you have a good potential manager and they just need a shot.

He'll be Everton manager some day.
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Just jumping into this conversation and seen your last line and I agree 100%. Maybe not the next manager after Martinez but at some point he will be manager whether people think he has the experience or not. We have a long line of ex players who have become manager of Everton ( well off the top of my head I can think of Royle, Kendall, Harvey, not 100% but think I'm right in saying Catterick and Bingham played for Everton and we've also had Gabriel and Watson as stand in managers ) and I think in time that trend will continue with Ferguson being the next one to be given a go.
 
BoysInBlue said:
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...to-hibernian-about-vacant-managers-job.68029/

Mainly the fact he was a massive numpty who always put himself and advised others to put themselves ahead of the club. And wasn't a very good manager, either as EFC U21 boss or as Hibernian boss.
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You think what Stubbs did this season is less impressive than putting cones out at Finch Farm and pumping a fist when we scored at Goodison? That's your judgement on the process of how the next manager of Everton football club should be chosen?

He has no case or merits whatsoever to be Everton manager. You see him as a hero, I get it. But you're all over the place trying to justify him stepping up from minor first team coach to the manager's job.
 
maccavennie said:
Just jumping into this conversation and seen your last line and I agree 100%. Maybe not the next manager after Martinez but at some point he will be manager whether people think he has the experience or not. We have a long line of ex players who have become manager of Everton ( well off the top of my head I can think of Royle, Kendall, Harvey, not 100% but think I'm right in saying Catterick and Bingham played for Everton and we've also had Gabriel and Watson as stand in managers ) and I think in time that trend will continue with Ferguson being the next one to be given a go.
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Most clubs have that type of hiring policy thiugh. It's not peculiar to Everton. Only the elite clubs have dispensed with that because they basically have the cash to hire the very best.
 

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