SteKelly
Player Valuation: £35m
No-one rates Coleman thats why. Hes a 72 ON FIFA FFS
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No-one rates Coleman thats why. Hes a 72 ON FIFA FFS
Of course he can be replaced.
Get some perspective.
£20 million for a 29 year old full back would be a great deal.
If he wants to go, that is.
This is what I would like cleared up once and for all.
Did Baines want to go to OT but is too much of a decent lad to act the bollox and agitate for the move?
And if so, would he still rather go there?
If the answer is "yes", then take the dough and move on.
If he wants to stay here, that would be great.......but we really need Leighton himself to make that clear so there isn't this uncertainty lurking in the background as we look like making a fist of a CL push this season.
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As has been stated many, many times, the TV money is dependent on final league position and actually arrives in the summer. Many clubs borrowed against it in order to fund their summer transfers - it appears that rightly or wrongly, we did not. I suspect that we may attempt to do so in January, when we have a better impression on where we might finish in May, but only in order to try to make Lukaku's move permanent. Problem is, the better he plays the less likely it is Chelsea will let him go.
Goat's summary of the finances is, to me, far more likely than the possibility that we have £15m in the kitty.
In answer to the OP: if a big enough bid came in I would shake Baines' hand, thank him for his faultless professionalism and sell him. No player is bigger than the club. It would need to be a big bid though, because we would have to replace not just the league's best left back but also a top-tier free-kick specialist: this could easily require two players.
I'd be way beyond surprised - I'd be over the moon and into the orbit of Jupiter. No way are City, United and Chelsea all going to miss out on the Champions League spots.
applecrumble
Player Valuation: £10m
keep Baines in January if we are serious about a champions league place, and if signing Lukaku is meant to be the money will have to come from else where.
I'd say you're right about Chelsea and Citeh.
But I can really see United struggling to make that top four.
I mean, Arsenal and Spurs are going to be real hot contenders.
Liverpool are in with a shout as are EFC.
Take Rooney and RVP out of United's first XI and they are bereft of matchwinners.
Of the seven realistic contenders for those top four places, I see United as being the most vulnerable and most likely to miss out based on what we have seen thus far.
That Baggies result is of huge significance.......not even for the result so much as for the way Clarke sent his team out there to win. not just hang on and hope for the best.
The fear factor is gone now, the rolling over by EPL managers for their guru (Fergie) is gone now...they sre finding themselves in a whole new ball game.
And once the refs realise Fergie ain't sat there glowering at them from the dugout and the soft pennos and dodgy red cards start drying up. like against Palace, then Old Trafford sill be a cardboard fortress.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Don't want to lose Baines but every player has his price and we may have to accept that, but for 20mill+.
Fellaini went for a good price and arguably as a team we are now better off without him. Has he been missed ask yourself.
Fellaini went for a good price and arguably as a team we are now better off without him. Has he been missed ask yourself.
They do look the most vulnerable of last season's top four, I'll give you that. I'd love nothing more than us snatching the place from them, but there's a crazy amount of football to come and, as you point out, seven teams going for those places. It's more competitive than ever.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Got that right. I can see us in the top 4 come April, and suddenly conceding penalties, having players sent off etc to ensure the "chosen clubs" end up in their rightful place for the runners up league, so UEFA can maintain the status quo.
We're just not welcome at the party. Look at the last time we gatecrashed, they had to dig Collina out of retirement, and disallow a perfectly good goal to do us.
Bitter? Moi?
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Whats the spurs link? Utd one is nonsense, 15mil and a player worth about the same who moyes is playing?!
Next will be cleverley due to his old wigan loan.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Baines won't leave in January. He's a Blue and a throwback to a previous era where love of a club was more important than bundles of cash. I'd be surprised if he didn't see his career out at Goodison.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Stubbs apparently said baines wanted to go to united in the summer.
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