This part right here, bang on the money. I've heard and read it described as 'Male stale and pale' and it affects far more than just the BBC.
Are we all becoming woke snowflakes?
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Where did you read that statement?
What shows do you watch btw where you would take an issue with the diverse cast? Isnt it all about the type of show it is and where it's set?
For example, a show about a welsh mining town would be predominantly white, and it would be stupid to just throw a BAME actor in there. But a show about a group of young people in London should have a cast that represents it's surroundings.
I don't think anyone is being over-represented, more that we're finally catching up in offering roles up to everybody and telling stories from various minority groups that need to be told.
It's a sin is a prefect example of this.
Lobster Johnson
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It's a sin was bloody brilliant.
Oddball
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exactly, i`d say pre-history even. the lives of the general population of this sceptered isle were so severe it wasn`t until the birth of philanthropy that any thought was given to us peasants/serfs or whatever you want to call us. we the dispossessed, being down-trodden and subjugated for so long don`t even know our own history because history is written by the winners and WE THE PEOPLE, didn`t win. now we are told we are privileged by the `woke` brigade, they try to guilt trip us by claiming victimhood for others while being seen as virtuous by their peers. (they could be called useful idiots but in reality i think they are just being played. as a 19yr old, it is laudable to have such sentiments - the other side of the coin being someone like William Hague who at that age was already beyond salvation)... anyway, because we don`t go over the top anymore like in 1916 or get shot for going on strike like in 1911 when Churchill sent the troops in, when all we wanted was to earn a living without dying at the coal face in our thousands, surely no one would hold us responsible for the worlds ills, would they?
For me, the problem is it is football. What they've done is try to mirror the mens game. Problem is, all that's done is leave them with everything that's wrong with modern day football. Just with none of the ritual, tradition and history currently holding then men's game up.
Women's football had a great chance to press the reset button, and come up something more resembling pre-sky football. That would have actually been interesting. But they've blown it, in order to chase the money.
Womens football is good, just the keepers are still rubbish and there's too many one sided games.
Stopped watching it last year as every game seemed to be won by three or four goals.
Stopped watching it last year as every game seemed to be won by three or four goals.
For my part: I find it very hard to take lessons about being easily offended from, say, someone who's head exploded when a woman was cast as Doctor Who
Diogenes the Cynic
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Happy to open this particular can of worms.
As a shape shifting alien I have absolutely no problem with Dr Who being other than male sometimes.
I do however object to programmes being laced with social lessons at every turn rather than being based on entertainment.
I suppose the James Bond thing will be the next in this discussion. Happy to say I do not want a black Bond or a female Bond or anything other than a white posh (or Scottish) Bond. I have the character in my head and do not want it to be dramatically reinvented. In similar fashion I would not want to see a white Shaft etc.
Make a new film or TV show with new characters and if it's good I will gladly watch and support it.
I've got to give it to @chrismpw, he achieves Davek levels of thread inflammation genius at times.
Bravo sir.
chrismpw
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I was coaching girls football back in the 90s before it became popular and became more mainstream. I also followed a successful local ladies team home and away for a few years. Then one day that team drew against Chelsea ladies in the FA cup. The skill level of both teams was about on par - the difference was that the Chelsea team had been coached unto cheating and gamesmanship- diving, appealing for everything, snidey little professional fouls. Was horrible to watch. Next what happened was that small teams like Doncaster who held the flag for women's football for decades were utterly destroyed as the model became all about the established sky brands and their money. This is why I lost interest in it - they abandoned their history and identity and just tried to copy the men's game - which I also have lost interest in.
I'd actually be down with an animated or cgi version of Bond, with animals being cast or used as avatars
Curious to see if folk would get rage about an Aardvark Bond.
chrismpw
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This! What is to stop talented writers and show runners creating new, interesting female characters of their own, rather than shouting "equality" while copying and riding on the backs of male characters? I can't be the only one who sees the irony of this.
I stopped watching Dr Who because each episode became a lecture, and because the actor was a panicky mouth breather when they were supposed to be intelligent alien, not because of their gender.
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