£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

[hetion]

And for every player that was a success I can name 2 that wasn't
Even City Chelsea United paid big money for duds
Spurs wasted a lot of the Gareth Bale money
We can't afford that luxury

I can also name 2 PL-players who went to new PL clubs and did nothing for every 1 that was a success. It's a total fallacy imo.

 

[Titus Bramble]

He isnt for sale. They have set a price they would accept reluctantly thats 50. For sale means they are actively looking to do business which they are not. They dont need the money. But lose the player , their best will probably result in relegation which will cost them hundreds of millions long term potentially. So........ the price is 50 but he isnt for sale.

Like neymar isnt for sale. But if someone coughs up 200 mil then hed be gone

He's not for sale... unless you pay enough money

So, he is for sale

 

[Paul E]

As a huge supporter of his, I considered it as one of his biggest weaknesses. Often criticizing his corners or set pieces.

He didn't get many set piece assists prior to last season. Only 3 or 4 for Swansea in 11/12, 14/15 and 15/16. That's a maximum of 4 set piece assists in his 19 assists across those 2½ seasons.

However, due to his role last season where he was forced to defend on the flank and average 27 passes per match compared to his normal 37 passes per match.. It limited his exposure on the ball to primarily set pieces during large parts of the season.

This resulted in his ''poor'' open play record, oh and the fact that he played for 4 different managers last season and didn't have any players capable of contributing in open play.

Appreciate the feedback and opinion mate but, as I say, he's never stood out to me and I watch a lot of football.

 

[Lanolin]

And for every player that was a success I can name 2 that wasn't
Even City Chelsea United paid big money for duds
Spurs wasted a lot of the Gareth Bale money
We can't afford that luxury

Same applies to both though. Torres was 'PL proven' when he tanked at Chelsea, a thousand players at Liverpool, Beattie with us, the list goes on and on and on. It's just a made up thing.

 

[Brisan123]

Because there is no evidence of PL proven being a thing.

It is said all the time but there is no evidence that signings made from within the league are more successful than those made from abroad.

No but you can have much more certainty buying proven PL players than unproven ones
That's why there is a premium to be paid for a proven PL player.
City just paid 25 m or thereabouts for a stand in full back if the Monaco lad doesn't work out
If Siva doesn't cut it they have plenty of options
We all wanted Nolito 3/4 years ago
Didn't work out for city and after 1 season he was sold for a major loss
If Walsh done that he'd be castigated on here

 

[Lanolin]

7th to 6th is 2mil straight away per season as well as a much more likely europa league spot which then generates millions more per season from the competition itself and marketing. If in your worst case scenario he gets us an extra place in the league he'll be worth it! keep in mind we will be selling players who don't, recouping that 50mil...we have done such good business so far, Rooney & Sandro & 85mil for Lukaku that paying a little over the usual for a team's star player has to be worth it. 50mil wouldn't even cover Swansea's losses were they to go down without him, that has to be taken into account when negotiating the fee as you can be sure Swansea are thinking it

You don't need to justify it to me, I'm not saying he'd be a bad signing.

I've said before that I think the prices quoted are obscene and we should be able to find someone else for a fraction of the cost, but if the management team want him then fine.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Corrected that there
It's what Koeman has stated he wants
Can Guardiola guarantee that Silva will be a success
I give you Claudio Bravo among many others

For every de Bruyne, silva, aguero, Toure,
There's a: mangala, otamendi, navas, negrado
Also another point to consider, the club at present isn't able to attract the players of the top box. We'd been buying 'unknown quality' from the second list of players, with the hope they are as good as de Bruyne, et al.

 

[Brisan123]

For every de Bruyne, silva, aguero, Toure,
There's a: mangala, otamendi, navas, negrado
Also another point to consider, the club at present isn't able to attract the players of the top box. We'd been buying 'unknown quality' from the second list of players, with the hope they are as good as de Bruyne, et al.

Exactly which is why we are paying a premium for Siggy
He's about the best we can realistically attract
People go on about Mahrez
He sat on the bench for a year or so before coming good

 

[marsh]

I somehow don't think he's going to break down in tears at the sound of a few yer da's groaning in the Park End.

Seen players confidence knocked too many times because of our fans

 

[Professor Toffee]

Using the continent more
There is loads of incontinent lads here already

Bags of then

 

[Timak]

Exactly which is why we are paying a premium for Siggy
He's about the best we can realistically attract
People go on about Mahrez
He sat on the bench for a year or so before coming good

Sorry to be pedantic but:
Mahrez signed in January 2014, came off the bench 4 times and then started almost every game.

 

[KevMirallas]

Can't believe everyone breezed past the @tommye bomb. 100% King Weasel record this summer on the line here.

 

[Titus Bramble]

This thread is a thing of beauty.

I particularly like the fact people are bemoaning Moshiri not spending any money in a thread about us bidding £40million+ for a player

 

[hetion]

I guess my point is, look at how good Southampton would be if they had the money/standing to be able to keep every player:

Forster
Clyne Alderweireld VVD Shaw
Wanyama Schneiderlin
Bale Lallana Oxlade
Walcott

Stupid formation obviously, but the point is, we can follow that model (invest heavily in a modern cutting edge scouting setup - except we could invest even more and make it even better, and be able to get a level above the targets they were able to - I guarantee they identified even better players who they weren't quite able to get) and then not have to sell the players (and also ideally not end up hiring a cack manager). There's better examples on the continent (Leipzig, Monaco) but but this is a Prem team so easier parallel.

On the other hand, Moshiri has stated he sees there being a short window where we need to bridge the gap NOW, which is what I see as presumably the justification for Sigurdsson/Rooney etc. That sort of short-termism is what makes me uncomfortable, and I don't know why he sees such a small window, but he must know something we don't, so hey-ho, it's just kinda bizarre because it flies in the face of every other success story of recent times.

Also it's possible that the above is happening concurrently anyway with Unsy's U23 buys and players like Onyekuru, so who knows, it may pan out that we're getting the best of both anyway

 

[Toffeeslam]

This thread is a thing of beauty.

I particularly like the fact people are bemoaning Moshiri not spending any money in a thread about us bidding £40million+ for a player

There are people saying Morshiri isn't spending any money ??

lollollol

Same people angry at RK cause Ross Barkley won't sign a new contract.

Everton that