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I don't agree with the last line but I certainly don't think Dyche is a miracle worker I just think he's doing an alright job and doesn't deserve the amount of criticism he gets. I don't really know what you mean by the other bit of course individual players don't get relegated but if you've...

Well unless you're happy to say Ashley Young should play every week now that he's 39 because he was good when he was 22 I don't really see what the issue is? The last 5 or 6 years doesn't have to mean all the good seasons go and bad ones stay I assume you didn't bother counting Pickford coming...

Yes do you understand English I said the last 5 or 6 years in the original post so you don't go back 15 years to start the average.

Yes it does but the point was that the players aren't being held back because this is their level and yes this is also Dyche's level I'm not arguing with that.

How can the average position of Coleman over the last 5 or 6 years be 7th when he's been playing for us and we haven't finished higher than 8th in that time?

And as well as struggling with 3 managers here we have about 10 players who've been relegated at other clubs so its definitely not just as likely to be Dyche holding them back because they have consistently found themselves in these positions over their career if I could be bothered I would work...

Its not really is it because most of them have been in this position under other managers aswell.

We're a very slow team sure enough. Danjuma hasn't looked to me like he has the sort of pace that worries teams he's not slow but you're not giving yourself a yard thinking he'll leave you for dead so I'm not sure what he would offer in terms of an out ball.

Yes I know that but i don't know what point you're trying to make? I'm not saying it's impossible for us to get something out of the game only that how we did in the game 11 years ago has absolutely no bearing on how we will do tonight.

Its a not myth. He didn't play at Rangers its fine to say he was young and behind a good player - the post you're replying to actually says this too but you ignored that bit- but it doesn't make it untrue so its not a myth. He didn't play in the 2 games Benitez had him or the 1 game that...

Yes i'm not saying any different but for a lot of that 11 seasons we weren't that far away from them and now we are so its not a record that has a lot of meaning it doesn't mean we can't do it again or even win but the fact we could draw with them when they were 5th and we were 8th or something...

I wouldn't mind if it wasn't so out of context either for quite a few of them seasons there wasn't that much between the two teams its a bit different to now when they're trying to win the league and we're trying to stay up!

Onyango is another one who I just don't think is rated very highly these lads are 21 and they've had just average loan spells in league one theres not much to support them going on to be regular players at the top level. Chermiti is obviously different he's still coming on for short appearances...

Is Danjuma quick? He's never looked it to me.

He didn't say that at all even though the usual people will try and spin it that he did he got asked a question about whether there was anyone ready to step up right now and said no i don't think so because if i did then i'd be picking them but its been turned into him saying every youth player...

The people at the club have to believe they've got the talent to develop though thats what everyone always ignores with these things. No offence meant to Dobbin but I just don't think he's ever really been seen as someone who's going to have a great career at premier league level Patterson is...

And the answer is exactly the same because before he signed for us he'd only started 3 games for Scotland and 2 of them were against Moldova so they have no idea what level he was actually at. What you're saying would be like me saying you I can't believe how much a player has got worse from...

Realistically they have no idea what they're talking about though do they because he only ever started about 7 games for Rangers before he moved here so even the most hardcore Rangers fans wouldn't be able to tell you too much about what level he was before he left nevermind just an average...

I don't think it counts as narcissistic behaviour if its not your own behaviour at all and just words written on the internet by people who've never met you. In my opinion the manager will always be the one who carries the can at the end of the day so if results are bad the manager will be the...

Moyes is an old school manager who wants to be in the middle of it every day he'd make an awful director of football because he wouldn't be able to let the manager get on with their job without interfering.