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A mere baby by Everton standards

That was my original point but that got lost in an endless chain of nonsense.

I'm mentioning it because it is indicative of how badly run we are. We lose huge amounts of money every single year and part of the problem is that we overpay on salaries for board members, for players, and especially for managers. Why shouldn't he get paid a gigantic wage, you ask? Because, at...

I'm not sure why you've got your knickers in such a massive twist. I've not criticised Dyche, all I've said is that he shouldn't get paid a £3m bonus, on top of his £5m annual wage, to finish 17th in perpetuity. You might want to think about meditation classes or something, you've got anger issues.

Why not make him the best paid then, according to your impeccable footballing knowledge? At what point of his tenure should he cease to earn a bonus for keeping us up? When every player at the club was signed by him should we continue to pay him a bonus? You're bang up for him getting a bonus...

6th highest paid manager in the premier league to finish 17th and still get a huge bonus in the second year of a contract. If that's true, it's no wonder we're potless.

We don't know what his contract says beyond his base salary, that's literally what we're discussing.

I agree that he will be doing well to achieve that, especially the way the summer is shaping up, but that is literally his core job. Offering an additional bonus on top of a very generous salary to finish 17th again makes absolutely no sense. I accept that football exists in a parallel financial...

This is true. I hope he doesn't have another bonus for avoiding relegation this year in his contract, however. That should be the minimum requirement not some extra bonus-worthy achievement.

Third time's the charm?

I never said he wasn't, all I said was that he had been duped. Nothing you've said has changed my mind.

If he honestly agreed to take on a job where he was told that, even though we just narrowly escaped relegation and were currently in the relegation zone, the squad would be stripped for parts and the only incomings would be freebies and microbudget players then he is either delusional or just...

That is a terrible squad, it's a miracle we survived the 90s!

People keep saying this, but I keep looking at our squad list and thinking it's not the case. I honestly think our current squad is worse than some of those yard dog Burnley squads he had. Our squad is truly terrible. Maybe four players in it of sufficient quality.

He said he had turned down other jobs. If he knew about what was going to happen this summer at Everton you have to wonder how bad the conditions were at the places he turned down!

I've shown my working out, you disagree, good for you. Feel free to propose whatever you like, it's only a fans forum on the internet, not the UN general assembly. It's not a problem that he sees it as a job, he should see it as a job, he should also see it as a job where he can improve us...

It's also not inconceivable that Moshiri and, most of all, Bill lied to him about the state of our finances and therefore our future budgets. I also find it hard to believe that any manager worth their salt would accept a job where they were told that every player was up for sale and that most...

No, he should manage a club that he can improve for a decent wage. He shouldn't take a big wage to manage decline which is the essence of the OP. Why does every discussion on this forum have to end up as a choice between two extremes - in this case Dyche managing for free because of his deep...

Like on a film set?

If that's true then I'm not at all sorry for him as he's purely here for the dough.